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rocky said:
He scores and creates a huge amount of goals. I think you're being very harsh and picking a fault where there really isn't one.



My nomination for under rated player is Jordan Pickford. By the neutral he's still seen as poor and a keeper who makes a lot mistakes. That hasn't happened for a while. Good end to the the season last season and he's had a good season this season, oh and a superb Euros for England. Despite that he still attracts a lot unwarranted criticism
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The pundits in this country hate goalkeepers. And he's the one on the biggest pedestal, whilst playing for a struggling side.
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Declan Rice is by some distance the player most underrated by this ridiculous board imo.

He's easily the best defensive midfielder in the league this season, including Kante, 22 and English. Yet feels like most of this board wants him peddled every England game.

Walks into any team in the league, including the two incredible football teams today.
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rapscallion said:
Mr Corry Evans
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Just looking at these two posts together. Curious that isn't it.
 
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chriswallace85 said:
The pundits in this country hate goalkeepers. And he's the one on the biggest pedestal, whilst playing for a struggling side.



Just looking at these two posts together. Curious that isn't it.
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Anyone who thinks Corry Evans can hold a candle to Rice, even adjusting for the leagues, needs their head examining.

Rice is defined by his engine - he covers every blade of grass. I can't make my mind up on Evans, but he doesn't play the DM role that way at all.

Though, to be honest, not sure what your point is.

Pickford is underrated though, I agree.
 
chriswallace85 said:
The pundits in this country hate goalkeepers. And he's the one on the biggest pedestal, whilst playing for a struggling side.



Just looking at these two posts together. Curious that isn't it.
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DM is one of the most underrated positions, unless you are flying around making big tackles and spraying the ball all over the pitch like Pirlo then most wont even notice what you are doing.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Anyone who thinks Corry Evans can hold a candle to Rice, even adjusting for the leagues, needs their head examining.

Rice is defined by his engine - he covers every blade of grass. I can't make my mind up on Evans, but he doesn't play the DM role that way at all.

Though, to be honest, not sure what your point is.

Pickford is underrated though, I agree.
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That many a poster on these boards do not appreciate defensive/holding type midfielders. We've had a long list of them over the years through the divisions, and they've all been derided by elements of our support.


Oh, and I certainly don't think Evans holds a candle to Declan Rice. :lol: But I can appreciate that he's doing a job for us at present.
 
chriswallace85 said:
That many a poster on these boards do not appreciate defensive/holding type midfielders. We've had a long list of them over the years through the divisions, and they've all been derided by elements of our support.


Oh, and I certainly don't think Evans holds a candle to Declan Rice. :lol: But I can appreciate that he's doing a job for us at present.
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Yes, think its fair.

I think this board - and most football fans/writers, maybe even footballers (I mean look at the f***ing Ballon D'or) - have a huge bias against defensive skills, period. Applies to all defenders too.

But you do have to laugh at the people in England threads calling for central midfields without a single DM.

Someone like Seb Larsson, for example. People used to say "he just stands and points". He was so good defensively and could deliver incredible set pieces, hence why he has 150ish caps. Ridiculous.
chunkylover53 said:
Maybe, but 79 league goals in 344 games vs 246 in 580. And Phillips generally played at a higher level

Injuries limited Bridges hugely of course, but he didn’t stay at a high level for very long
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It's nonsense imo.

Phillips was better. Even at 36/37 he was helping teams get promoted to the Premier League.

Bridges had a better first touch, a beautiful first touch really. But that gives the illusion that he was all-round a better footballer. I don't think he was.
 
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Admittedly I don't watch him a huge amount, but I've always been impressed with Romeu at Southampton.

Seems to do his job exceptionally well but I rarely see or hear much about him.

I could be miles off mind :lol:
 
chunkylover53 said:
I’ll start with Raheem Sterling.

Scored the 2nd most goals for Guardiola. Behind Messi. But ahead of Aguero

Absolutely class player. But this place thinks he’s shit
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Fantastic player but always seems to have tremendous issues doing the most simple things against Liverpool.

The gilt edged chance first half and then the wall he ran into before VVD took the ball off him second half.

Declan Rice, he virtually carries that West Ham team, what a footballer. A supporters player.
 
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Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Yes, think its fair.

I think this board - and most football fans/writers, maybe even footballers (I mean look at the f***ing Ballon D'or) - have a huge bias against defensive skills, period. Applies to all defenders too.

But you do have to laugh at the people in England threads calling for central midfields without a single DM.

Someone like Seb Larsson, for example. People used to say "he just stands and points". He was so good defensively and could deliver incredible set pieces, hence why he has 150ish caps. Ridiculous.

It's nonsense imo.

Phillips was better. Even at 36/37 he was helping teams get promoted to the Premier League


Bridges had a better first touch, a beautiful first touch really. But that gives the illusion that he was all-round a better footballer. I don't think he was.
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I very nearly mentioned him in me post.

Whether they play it a certain way or another, all of the great sides have had them.

Roy Keane. Gilberto Silva for Brazil - and Arsenal's invincibles for that matter. Xabi Alonso. Gattuso. Makelele. Busquets. Casemiro. Kante. Nobby Stiles. Micky Horswill!
 
MarcoG said:
Son's overrated if anything, class when on form but his bad form got completely ignored because Harry Kane was out of form and he's English so becomes a scapegoat.

Underrated - Mateo Kovacic, Joel Matip & Araujo at Barcelona.
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Kovacic is an interesting one, has four champions league winners medals yet only played 10 mins in a final for Chelsea. Missed out on the World Cup final for Croatia behind Rakitic and Modric.Yet voted player of the year for Chelsea. He’s suffered being in club sides with quality squads.
 
Son is the type of player fergie would have signed for utd and made him world class.

Henderson is the obvious choice for most underrated IMO. I mean half this board thought he was shite when he played for us, and according to FB he's crap.
 
chunkylover53 said:
I’ll start with Raheem Sterling.

Scored the 2nd most goals for Guardiola. Behind Messi. But ahead of Aguero

Absolutely class player. But this place thinks he’s shit
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Agreed, I thinks he's class and have always thought he was. I remember a u21 game vs Liverpool and he must have been 15 or 16 , looked class then
 
rocky said:
He scores and creates a huge amount of goals. I think you're being very harsh and picking a fault where there really isn't one.



My nomination for under rated player is Jordan Pickford. By the neutral he's still seen as poor and a keeper who makes a lot mistakes. That hasn't happened for a while. Good end to the the season last season and he's had a good season this season, oh and a superb Euros for England. Despite that he still attracts a lot unwarranted criticism
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Check the Everton forum and see how much the rate Pickford! I agree he’s been excellent for England and hasn’t made any clangers and made match winning performances, but at Everton it’s a different kettle
 
Lawrenceslongthrowin said:
Check the Everton forum and see how much the rate Pickford! I agree he’s been excellent for England and hasn’t made any clangers and made match winning performances, but at Everton it’s a different kettle
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I have and they're mostly coming round to him. Check the column in the Liverpool Echo from an Everton fan about him
 
Lipso said:
He isn’t underrated at all. People have high expectations of him as he has a lot of ability and showed potential but rarely delivers in the way top, top players do. That’s not underrating him, it’s calling out a player who could and should perform to a higher standard more consistently.
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Perfectly summed up.
 
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