Defoe talk-in - Roker Hotel tonight

[bedlington mackem]

If Benji is the answer, no matter how likeable he may be, then we're well and truly knackered.

His heart should have continued ruling his head and told him to honour the contract he signed 2 months ago.

Maybe it was a pay as you play contract …..?……but even if it was i stillcant see how even himself or the management team coukdnt have used his influence and experience even ifit was just in and around the squad / dressing room if not on the pitch

 

[pixie345]

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Better off leaving him where he is and hope he can take a few points off the clubs around us.

You say that as if it’s a bad thing.

get where you're coming from , but everyone seems unhappy about Defoe bailing and no other striker. Broadhead mystery and Kimpioka an enigma

 

[Ashley In!!]

Did he confirm a hamstring injury ?

Don't think he did.

 

[Iain]

Do you think it will really change financially if KLD buys Donald out?I personally dont!If kld had a decent financially funded plan to get us into the premiership he would have bought out Donald shares and got the ball rolling............ his pissing about points to his motivation and penny pinching in my book!The money Donald wants is peanuts in the scheme of things if KLD's plans are to get us back to the premiership.

I personally think that KLD will be at Monaco if five years time and we will be run on an austerity model for the foreseeable future where the football is guided by the business plan and not the other way round.

I do think without Donald KLD will invest more, however I don't think it will be on the scale of the way short wasted money, I also think that KLD will not have made these business decisions alone he will have exceptionally experienced advisors. I'm sure like you have said he could pay Donald his asking price if he wanted but we also have to remember that this deal was extremely close to collapsing due to Donald's over valuation. KLD and his team were not prepared to pay what the club was not worth. So they came up with a solution on how to buy in to the club its certainly not what I wanted from the take over and I don't think we will really progress while Donald and Co are still there, I do think KLDs team will be a lot more switched on than Donald and will end up getting the club at the price they wanted however that seems to me to be at our expense of waiting longer before our recovery can fully take place

 

[Falconhoof]

The boy went to this last night and said it was awful. Too many people there, couldn't hear the mic, food served as the talk was been done etc. He said it was very poor

 

[Sons of The Wear]

Is it any wonder players just turn up and gan through the motions at Sunderland when you see the grief Defoe is getting for deciding he's finished at 39??

Some of the comments on this thread and elsewhere are really pathetic.

What a load of crap.
He’s left us in the lurch and should be ashamed of himself.
You have admitted you love Rangers more than SAFC. The naivety of your post is absolutely absurd.
Apparently Defoe didn’t want to do this appearance at the Roker and refused to do a Q&A. It was incredulous that no one found out why he’s dropped us in the shit.

 

[CaptainRed]

Should never have came back. At 39 years old there's always that chance his legs can just go at any time. I'm disappointed as I thought he'd be a useful impact sub coming off the bench for the last 15/20 mins in tight games but it hasn't worked out like that.

Overall I'll remember him fondly for his first spell. His bond with Bradley and scoring the best goal in the history of the Wear/Tyne Derby.

 

[Aldyyyy]

Still fuming I paid £45 for that load of shite last night when 90% of the night was spent in the bar upstairs

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

I do think without Donald KLD will invest more, however I don't think it will be on the scale of the way short wasted money, I also think that KLD will not have made these business decisions alone he will have exceptionally experienced advisors. I'm sure like you have said he could pay Donald his asking price if he wanted but we also have to remember that this deal was extremely close to collapsing due to Donald's over valuation. KLD and his team were not prepared to pay what the club was not worth. So they came up with a solution on how to buy in to the club its certainly not what I wanted from the take over and I don't think we will really progress while Donald and Co are still there, I do think KLDs team will be a lot more switched on than Donald and will end up getting the club at the price they wanted however that seems to me to be at our expense of waiting longer before our recovery can fully take place

The Louis-Dreyfus family didn't get rich (or stay rich) by overpaying for anything. There won't be big sums committed until we're in the Championship (and even then, it won't be silly money). Given that £1m in L1 is Man City levels of spend, there's no justification for going mad while we're in it, especially as pay rates tend to correlate with fee paid, and we have a wage cap to contend with.

 

[oddbod]

The Louis-Dreyfus family didn't get rich (or stay rich) by overpaying for anything. There won't be big sums committed until we're in the Championship (and even then, it won't be silly money). Given that £1m in L1 is Man City levels of spend, there's no justification for going mad while we're in it, especially as pay rates tend to correlate with fee paid, and we have a wage cap to contend with.

You appear to be happy with this explanation of KLD behavior. Good billionaire being canny with his money! The sums involved are so small in the scheme of things that it hardly breeds confidence that they cannot resolve it.
I have no faith whatsoever in kld since the 41% farrago and i will be glad once he buggers of to Monaco!

 

[riffraff]

Doesn't what mate?.

Have the money.

 

[kildaremackem]

You appear to be happy with this explanation of KLD behavior. Good billionaire being canny with his money! The sums involved are so small in the scheme of things that it hardly breeds confidence that they cannot resolve it.
I have no faith whatsoever in kld since the 41% farrago and i will be glad once he buggers of to Monaco!

why would kld go to monaco?
the sums may seem small, and if kld were actually a billionaire, which he isnt, they might be, but he views football as a business, and not paying stupid money for things is a good rule in business.#
ellis short probably thought chucking another 10m at it here or there was small money, until it adds up.

 

[richest]

The Louis-Dreyfus family didn't get rich (or stay rich) by overpaying for anything. There won't be big sums committed until we're in the Championship (and even then, it won't be silly money). Given that £1m in L1 is Man City levels of spend, there's no justification for going mad while we're in it, especially as pay rates tend to correlate with fee paid, and we have a wage cap to contend with.

So, GOM, are you saying KLD could go on for years like this, not paying a penny more etc, and if we stay in this pub league then tough?

Because if we dont go up this season, likely, then we will lose another dozen player of more, to be replaced by another dozen of no doubt cheap, small, weak and injury prone players under our maestro Speakman.

 

[kildaremackem]

So, GOM, are you saying KLD could go on for years like this, not paying a penny more etc, and if we stay in this pub league then tough?

Because if we dont go up this season, likely, then we will lose another dozen player of more, to be replaced by another dozen of no doubt cheap, small, weak and injury prone players under our maestro Speakman.

safc havent signed many cheap playes over the past year..
and KLD has spent millions on the club over the poast year..i doubt any other shareholder in league one has spent more than him..

 

[oddbod]

why would kld go to monaco?
the sums may seem small, and if kld were actually a billionaire, which he isnt, they might be, but he views football as a business, and not paying stupid money for things is a good rule in business.#
ellis short probably thought chucking another 10m at it here or there was small money, until it adds up.

To follow his mate santi!tad warmer anarl!
yes in the scheme of things yes its peanuts ..makes them look like a couple af tramps arguing over fish bone.
Short never invested enough in one go to create a team..he was caught in a cycle that he inherited of chasing his tail avoiding relegation at all costs... paying to sack managers and staff then hiring another manager ,staff and players ...he spent al his time stuck in that cycle and we never had a team built by one manager.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

So, GOM, are you saying KLD could go on for years like this, not paying a penny more etc, and if we stay in this pub league then tough?

Because if we dont go up this season, likely, then we will lose another dozen player of more, to be replaced by another dozen of no doubt cheap, small, weak and injury prone players under our maestro Speakman.

Most teams that get out of this league do it spending bugger all money. It's about recruiting better (as in more wisely) than we have. At the same time though, we don't want to have a replace an entire team after promotion; your typical League 1 clogger won't cut it at the higher level. It's a balancing act we haven't got right since we've been here. There should be no need to spend more than £1m or so overall.

 

[nayrboss]

Is it any wonder players just turn up and gan through the motions at Sunderland when you see the grief Defoe is getting for deciding he's finished at 39??

Some of the comments on this thread and elsewhere are really pathetic.

What? Some players turn up and play shite on purpose because a handful of people on an internet forum have commented saying they don't appreciate him not hanging on for less than 2 months before retiring?



creased here

fans fault

 

[kildaremackem]

To follow his mate santi!tad warmer anarl!
yes in the scheme of things yes its peanuts ..makes them look like a couple af tramps arguing over fish bone.
Short never invested enough in one go to create a team..he was caught in a cycle that he inherited of chasing his tail avoiding relegation at all costs... paying to sack managers and staff then hiring another manager ,staff and players ...he spent al his time stuck in that cycle and we never had a team built by one manager.

short certainly invested enough to build a team-he just hired idiots to build it, for the mosst part. safc had the 8th highest wage bill under short-but never came 8th-indicating money wasnt the issue.

 

[oddbod]

safc havent signed many cheap playes over the past year..
and KLD has spent millions on the club over the poast year..i doubt any other shareholder in league one has spent more than him..

If you've got a rolls Royce you are an idiot if you dont keep up the maintenance costs .......you are as usual blurring the lines .. no club outside the premiership has the facilities that we do and that requires upkeep! talk about the the team or squad spending and we are not the top spenders in the January window and we should have been!

short certainly invested enough to build a team-he just hired idiots to build it, for the mosst part. safc had the 8th highest wage bill under short-but never came 8th-indicating money wasnt the issue.

No he didn't!not in a sustained way he was always chasing his tail!he was paying wages and payoffs of players long gone!Your analysis is always such a narrow focus that you miss the big picture..yes short spent a lot of money but it was fire fire fighting not team building.

 

[Sir Tasker]

I suspect he has been offered lucrative employment elsewhere and will start soon enough. He seems to be holding details back, probably at the request of a potential new employer. I think he will be a BBC pundit very soon. I think he will be very good at it too.