NUFC and other Sportswashing Spring 2022

[Nukehasslefan]

You're wasting your life man.

I bet you never tell anyone you know that you're on here at all hours week after week.

Seriously, what would your family think if they knew

If you pm me and leave a number I can have my wife say hello to you whilst looking at the screen if it helps you.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

If that's the case we all do.
It's just a case of what is moral to some and not to others in whatever country or area of life is set up.

I have many morals for many things just like you do. I also have many immoral traits depending on any given setup, just like you do.
Why?
Because we're all part of being subjective in our morality no matter how the argument goes in the strength or weakness of one.

There's a reason why many things happen in the world, morally or immorally.

Of course. Your hatred of Newcastle United and fans offers you this thought and you're welcome to it.

All wars are barbaric.
All wars and despicable.
All warmongers should be brought to book.
Shall we just stick to these wars or offer up the wars everywhere?

Or don't they count in this argument?

Me too.

It's basically putting things into perspective to those who feel their argument can only go one way, without a counter.

I'll keep it simple, so are all governments.

Blood on your hands you tool.

 

[Elephant]

Maybe it was to show support for Dubravka ?

@johnmerro1: Three inflatable dinosaurs launched onto the pitch in disgust. Brought 170 miles to mock Jordan Pickford who didn't even play. #EVENEW

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[Nukehasslefan]

Most fans are happy that we can afford players? Sure it was Ashley that bought Joelinton for £40m and gave Bruce over £150m to spend. That’s not forgetting he gave McLaren about £90m to spend, about 7 year ago

I'm talking about affording players in the higher bracket with pay to match, without budget worries.

Let’s not forget when he was buying all the unknown french internationals as well. Remember, yous had a French day walking round with berets on?

I loved it. I was still ok with Ashley. I'm simply saying that many fans hated him and the hate went overboard with fans wanting more and are now happy the club will spend.
It's the nature of the beast and all clubs would have that mindset in that position.

Utterly f***ing shameful excuse of a fanbase that just rewrites history time and time again

Of course, as it would be for any other club doing it, which every club would do. IMO.
The stance is easy for you. You're not in that position so naturally, you believe you can stand on the highest pedestal because you believe your morals are intact compared to Newcastle fans.

Blood on your hands you tool.

In that case, we all do.

Your poor mam

She's been dead for 18 years, don't worry about her.

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

If that's the case we all do.
It's just a case of what is moral to some and not to others in whatever country or area of life is set up.

I have many morals for many things just like you do. I also have many immoral traits depending on any given setup, just like you do.
Why?
Because we're all part of being subjective in our morality no matter how the argument goes in the strength or weakness of one.

There's a reason why many things happen in the world, morally or immorally.

Of course. Your hatred of Newcastle United and fans offers you this thought and you're welcome to it.

All wars are barbaric.
All wars and despicable.
All warmongers should be brought to book.
Shall we just stick to these wars or offer up the wars everywhere?

Or don't they count in this argument?

Me too.

It's basically putting things into perspective to those who feel their argument can only go one way, without a counter.

I'll keep it simple, so are all governments.

Ah so this is the line you're taking. You're trying to put the saudi state on a par with all other nation states. Thats absolutely absurd.

Saudi Arabia is one of the worst nation states on earth for human rights abuses. Thats not me saying that. Its the likes of amnesty who specialise in this stuff.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Ah so this is the line you're taking. You're trying to put the saudi state on a par with all other nation states. Thats absolutely absurd.

Is it really?

Saudi Arabia is one of the worst nation states on earth for human rights abuses.

Really?

Thats not me saying that. Its the likes of amnesty who specialise in this stuff.

Take a look around you. I'd say most countries offer their own despicable treatment of humans and animals...etc.
Hate one, hate them all.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

I'm talking about affording players in the higher bracket with pay to match, without budget worries.

I loved it. I was still ok with Ashley. I'm simply saying that many fans hated him and the hate went overboard with fans wanting more and are now happy the club will spend.
It's the nature of the beast and all clubs would have that mindset in that position.


Of course, as it would be for any other club doing it, which every club would do. IMO.
The stance is easy for you. You're not in that position so naturally, you believe you can stand on the highest pedestal because you believe your morals are intact compared to Newcastle fans.

In that case, we all do.

She's been dead for 18 years, don't worry about her.

A mag and a wum is not a good combination. Chuck in you are a fking idiot.

Do not link any of us to your rotten stinking club. We have no blood on our hands now fk off.

 

[lichtiemike]

Morning lads, just your daily reminder (as if you needed it) that Newcastle were cherry picked by the Saudi Regime because they knew their thickie fanbase would welcome them with open arms, as long as it meant Ashley and Bruce left.

Literally turning a blind eye to 81 executions the other day, purely because they splash cash on superstars like Dan Burn & Chris Wood just to win football matches.

Mike Ashley runs club as a business - Protests.

Saudi regime kill 81 of their own people - No protests.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

A mag and a wum is not a good combination. Chuck in you are a fking idiot.

Your arguments are weak by using this.

Do not link any of us to your rotten stinking club.

No need to. I'm linking all with subjective morality.

We have no blood on our hands now fk off.

We all do.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Maybe it was to show support for Dubravka ?

@johnmerro1: Three inflatable dinosaurs launched onto the pitch in disgust. Brought 170 miles to mock Jordan Pickford who didn't even play. #EVENEW

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The thickest fans in the country by a country mile.

There is a reason why a murderous terrorist regime choose them.

Your arguments are weak by using this.

No need to. I'm linking all with subjective morality.

We all do.

We know the state of you. You dont need to keep proving it. Fk off.

 

[offmenut]

Oh, it can go much deeper than this. This is just scraping the top of the icing.
Shall we go through all wars and such or is it just one we need to be concentrating on because it suits?

Many people are not happy paying taxes. Many people are not happy about going to war.
Many people are not happy about paying high fuel bills. And so on but we do it.
If we're not happy doing this stuff then why do it?

Course not, your morals become massively subjective and your focus is on what's at hand. What can be offset from your own subjective morality? Newcastle United is the focus as it stands.

I am part of it. I have massive subjective morality and I admit it 100%.
It seems you don't feel you have any or if you do you don't seem to want to admit it.

I'm far from happy about being turned into a plastic moneybags club but the world of football is so corrupt it's a case of fans going with the flow of, if you can't beat them then join them.
It's not right but life in itself is all corrupt and far from right.

To be fair most don't care until the prices go up and someone is to blame.
If the Government said tomorrow or that they did a deal with Russia or whatever and your gas and electric bills will be £5 a week from now on, most people would forget about anything to do with the conflict.
We're a selfish bunch in the main and we're all out to get whatever is on offer if it appears good for us, regardless of who suffers for it.
I'm just trying to be as honest as I see it.

Such is life. How many people do you think work because they love the Government?
Do you think people like being known as an underclass to those at the top?

That's what I am talking about. It applies to us all.

As to what?
I have a lot to apologise for but it is meaningless if I support regimes that offer atrocities and atrocious conditions to those who help provide stuff that makes me content. I'm a hypocrite and I admit it.
I suffer from morality issues but hide them when arguing morality on certain subjects just as you're doing right now with Newcastle United and fans as your main focus.



I don't feel better. I hate what's happening in the world but I have a choice to live my life being a hypocrite and being subjective in my morality or cast it all aside and live as pure as can be construed as being just that.
I don't know how to do that, do you?

If you do then I'd be happy to discuss it.

What a load of utter shite.
The fact you spend time writing this is deeply concerning.
Subjective morality.
People pay taxes as it helps society. They may not be happy buy understand why.
Taxes are a necessity. As is oil.
We do it as a necessity.
I go to work, I don't want to.

Subjective happiness of morality - youre comung across like a pyscopath.
Being happy that a dictator owns your club is horrendous. And is no wsy connected to buying oil and paying taxes and being unhappy that you are. Maybe if i loved buying oil of your murdering dictator but I'm not.
Wars in the past. Wtaf.
Unfortunately marra, it's now were taking about.
The world should have moved on and leant.
Russia and Saudi Arabia and Syria don't seem to.
Fuck your club.
Fuck the time you spend on here trying to justify your morals. Not one thing you say makes any sense. You're coming across as a complete idiot so I'm out.
You're ignored from now on so no point responding. I'm so glad I'm not u or involved in that horrible club of yours.
You and Newcastle make me feel better about myself. Thanks.

 

[Dilligaf60]

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Completely ruined their night. Get the fuck in

Champion.

 

[Mackem2017]

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[deleted user 785]

Subjective morality or finding excuses to support the worst of the worst?
I'll take subjective morality

 

[HeaderDownBrown]

Morning lads, just your daily reminder (as if you needed it) that Newcastle were cherry picked by the Saudi Regime because they knew their thickie fanbase would welcome them with open arms, as long as it meant Ashley and Bruce left.

Literally turning a blind eye to 81 executions the other day, purely because they splash cash on superstars like Dan Burn & Chris Wood just to win football matches.

Mike Ashley runs club as a business - Protests.

Saudi regime kill 81 of their own people - No protests.

But Burn should be in the England squad I've heard.....nearly 30 and never played for them but a few decent games for the mighty Toon and he should be in...reminds me when they were outraged before the World Cup in 2018 coz Jonjur wasn't in ahead of Henderson...

 

[Skylon]

I agree and that's why I was happy with Ashley running the club up to a point.
The issue was it becoming far too poisonous and a teet for tat war ensued which didn't help the overall cause.

Ashley was welcomed then despised for not allowing messiahs to run riot and then begrudgingly welcomed again when things went better and then despised again when things didn't suit.

I've argued this for long enough among Newcastle fans that the situation was caused by both parties. Ashley made mistakes and certain fans spewed bile and hatred and created a bandwagon mentality of hatred that basically went out of control and ended up creating a massive divide with the owner.

Two to tango is true but harboring bitter hatred at every turn is a disaster waiting to happen.
Now those fans have what they want.
Spending big.
Buying anyone and everyone in time.
Owners that turn the club plastic.
Expectations that have little to no leeway.

The only good thing to come from it is showbiz football for however long it lasts.

Would that be nice?
Yes...I won't lie.
Is it ethical? Absolutely not but the overall argument now is a case of, if you can't beat them, join them.
Football sold its soul to the devil a long time ago.
This is just added extra to feeding that devil and I'm under no illusions about it but I will never apologise for being a Newcastle fan.

You have no mind of your own.Everything you decide,is based on other people's morals.You like to follow the crowd.When asked about how you personally feel about things,you deflect onto other people.You are a brainwashed sheep.And you condone your owner being a paedophile.I wonder why?

 

[Junior Birdman]

They should combine two of their recent signings and Burn Wood. What a plank.

 

[Deleted member 1169]

Fellow posters can we all please put @Nukehasslefan on mute and do not respond to him? The trouble with the board is when you mute someone and another poster responds to them you see half a post. Let us all just vow to ignore and not reply to the self proclaimed intellectual.

 

[Skylon]

Oh, it can go much deeper than this. This is just scraping the top of the icing.
Shall we go through all wars and such or is it just one we need to be concentrating on because it suits?

Many people are not happy paying taxes. Many people are not happy about going to war.
Many people are not happy about paying high fuel bills. And so on but we do it.
If we're not happy doing this stuff then why do it?

Course not, your morals become massively subjective and your focus is on what's at hand. What can be offset from your own subjective morality? Newcastle United is the focus as it stands.

I am part of it. I have massive subjective morality and I admit it 100%.
It seems you don't feel you have any or if you do you don't seem to want to admit it.

I'm far from happy about being turned into a plastic moneybags club but the world of football is so corrupt it's a case of fans going with the flow of, if you can't beat them then join them.
It's not right but life in itself is all corrupt and far from right.

To be fair most don't care until the prices go up and someone is to blame.
If the Government said tomorrow or that they did a deal with Russia or whatever and your gas and electric bills will be £5 a week from now on, most people would forget about anything to do with the conflict.
We're a selfish bunch in the main and we're all out to get whatever is on offer if it appears good for us, regardless of who suffers for it.
I'm just trying to be as honest as I see it.

Such is life. How many people do you think work because they love the Government?
Do you think people like being known as an underclass to those at the top?

That's what I am talking about. It applies to us all.

As to what?
I have a lot to apologise for but it is meaningless if I support regimes that offer atrocities and atrocious conditions to those who help provide stuff that makes me content. I'm a hypocrite and I admit it.
I suffer from morality issues but hide them when arguing morality on certain subjects just as you're doing right now with Newcastle United and fans as your main focus.



I don't feel better. I hate what's happening in the world but I have a choice to live my life being a hypocrite and being subjective in my morality or cast it all aside and live as pure as can be construed as being just that.
I don't know how to do that, do you?

If you do then I'd be happy to discuss it.

It's the fact you condone paedophiles that worries me

 

[Dilligaf60]

Your arguments are weak by using this.

No need to. I'm linking all with subjective morality.

We all do.

The notion that one has to get involved in a discussion about “selective morality” in order to justify having an opinion on a mass murderer buying a football club is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read on here, and it’s a very high bar. You choose to ignore what the KSA are doing on a daily basis. Most other people don’t. You are reflecting. It’s not working. It never has and it never will.