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Michael Mosley Who made Britain fat ? c4

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Lord Alfred said:
Might also be that a fair few of them are carrying a bit of extra timber too. The practice nurse who does my "wellman" check is at least 8 stone over a healthy weight.
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I understand it’s their job to advise based on guidelines but the last check up I had the nurse was giving me diet and excercise.

I’m 6’2” and about 15 clem. Pretty active and exercise 3-5 times a week. Got an alright diet but could probably reign the pints on a weekend in a bit.

She was about 5 foot and definitely weighed more than me. Looked like she’d struggle with a set of stairs and cry if there was anything green on her plate. It made me laugh anyway.
 
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dixonsafc said:
I understand it’s their job to advise based on guidelines but the last check up I had the nurse was giving me diet and excercise.

I’m 6’2” and about 15 clem. Pretty active and excercise 3-5 times a week. Got an alright diet but could probably reign the pints on a weekend in a bit.

She was about 5 foot and definitely weighed more than me. Looked like she’d struggle with a set of stairs and cry if there was anything green on her plate. It made me laugh anyway.
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It dilutes the message if the health professionals giving you advice clearly aren't following it themselves.

I'd be tempted to go for the nuclear option and take people into operating theatres to see legs hacked off due to diabetes or circulatory problems due to smoking.....or people on permanent oxygen.
 
Do schools teach about diet and nutrition?
Don't remember anything like that when I was there in the 70s.
 
JAZZMANB said:
I like his stuff
This one made for hard but unsurprising viewing
Shit food cheaper than good food
Hard sell at the Supermarkets on unhealthy option
More take aways the poorer the area
Hidden sugars
The incredible rise in Just eat etc
GPs diet advice basic non existent

Can't see a fix
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Walked past McDonalds on High St West yesterday lunch time. Must have been 15-20 lads waiting around outside, all delivery riders.

Unbelievable there's so much trade to make that viable, but I guess it makes the problem worse. Not only are people eating junk on a regular basis, they're not even dragging their carcasses out to the shop to get it.
 
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JAZZMANB said:
You're in the group who watches MM and the like ,i am too ,i too have stopped eatiing things through education but there's a massive chunk dont sit watching c4 documentaries .We didnt all watch them in the 70s yet we werent all Whales because the food chain wasnt corrupt like now
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I think there's a couple of things in play which most people don't know much about. First is the importance of the gut microbiome in regulating weight. If you're dealt a poor hand in microbe variety there's not much you can do regards putting weight on bar getting a faecal transplant. Second is the food advice put out over the last 30 years or so which has been low fat and high carb and its largely been discredited now.
 
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This is some next level batshittery.

Me and the missus saw what was happening at the start of the pandemic, how it affected the overweight way more than other people and thought “shit we should do something” and we took the chance to lose loads of weight.

This person seems to have seen it as a chance to do fuck all about her weight and instead of getting healthier just…did nothing.

Being overweight or obese isn’t about being “body confident” it’s about being massively at risk from almost every preventable disease there is.
 
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The King of Um said:
Walked past McDonalds on High St West yesterday lunch time. Must have been 15-20 lads waiting around outside, all delivery riders.

Unbelievable there's so much trade to make that viable, but I guess it makes the problem worse. Not only are people eating junk on a regular basis, they're not even dragging their carcasses out to the shop to get it.
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I can understand someone walking past a McDonald's, feeling peckish, and popping in (I've done it myself) but I can't get my head around someone ordering a delivery from them.
 
Darlo1973 said:
I can understand someone walking past a McDonald's, feeling peckish, and popping in (I've done it myself) but I can't get my head around someone ordering a delivery from them.
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On the other hand, it's literally impossible to have truly healthy food delivered to your door.
 
Darlo1973 said:
I can understand someone walking past a McDonald's, feeling peckish, and popping in (I've done it myself) but I can't get my head around someone ordering a delivery from them.
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Convenience shops, which are generally called that as they're in a convenient place for people to walk into are on delivery services now. Today the first order my shop had was an order for a 4pk of Lucozade Sport 500ml and a packet of cigarettes. People will seemingly pay up to a few pound of delivery and service charges for a couple of items to avoid going to the place. So a cheap takeaway option that isn't just open from 5pm? Hell yes people are going to go for it, paying that pound or so to avoid going to the place.

On the overall issue, it's possible a factor is the change in society from a one person working household to a two person working household making some problems. Years ago when I had an office job for a while I didn't get back home until just before 7pm. Could I be bothered doing anything more than bung some ready prepared things in an oven or do something in the microwave? Hell no. But in previous generations there will have been a doting wife who will have had time to slog over a meal to have it ready to serve within minutes of the working hubby coming home. Now it's both working, and likely with commutes with the added complexity of lower waged households more likely to be on shift work so have to fit time in for food rather than being able to plan time to cook from scratch a lot.
 
PTR said:
Just real food, tasty real food that people like.
Just without the effort.
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Unfortunately people like McDonalds, kebabs and fried chicken. That's why they are popular.

I think it's different if you live in a big city where many proper restaurants will deliver via the likes of Uber Eats or Deliveroo - it was a huge growth area during lockdown as a way for them to stop in business - but in smaller towns your delivery options are usually limited to the usual suspects.
 
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The explosion in Obesity and T2d is a result of the 'food triangle' being laid out as high carb/protein/low fat in the 50's.
Sadly for me I was obese and T2d until i reversed the 'food triangle' into a high fat/protein/low carb - low carb as in no more than 20 net carbs per day. Along came Ketosis and off came 5 stone and reversed T2d.
The advice a doctor or nutritionist will give will be from the high carb/protein/low fat (5 a day!) It's laid down that this is the only advice they will give. What would happen if a person with T2d was told to follow a Ketogenic diet? I had it for 8 years and it only got worse - never better. 12months of low carb and I'd reversed it. I now cost the NHS absolutely nothing. No more metformin, gliclazide or atorvastatin. 8 tablets a day to none.
 
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