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NUFC and other Sportswashing Spring 2022

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Nukehasslefan said:
We're all guilty of that as well.
It's just a case of what's being talked about at any time.
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Yes, just a trend that people are questioning a state owned football club - a state who has just broken its own record for executing its own citizens in a single day. One of whom was 14.
On top of that, they have been killing children in the Yemen on a daily basis.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
How would I be defending them?


So here's the thing, do we all give up everything we rely on from countries we deem bad?
If so then let's go all out and banish all football clubs and all sports and all the rest of the stuff made by countries we feel are not morally up to our standards.

Where does this leave us?
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Sometimes Governments have to have some economic relationships with shady regimes/countries -all counties do. That doesn't mean football fans have to put up with it. It's the fans game, the clubs, the leagues belong to the fans and you can guarantee, a time is coming very soon when blood money will not be accepted in our game. Mark last week as sea-change, the party is nearly over for NUFC and anyone else involved in it.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
Lets not pretend what you were referring to wasn't fans of Sunderland morally objecting to what is happening in Saudi is merely because they own Newcastle eh?
If you think stating that distances you from what is now the sporting face of Saudi Arabia (you hd one free weekend and were summoned to play a game there man) then fair enough.
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They could suddenly play that game after calling a game off for alleged covid cases, weird that.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
WORRABOOT! Have you heard your f***ing self man.
Yes, I buy diesel for my motor, my Daughter watches Disney plus but one thing I do not f***ing do my friend is celebrate nor defend mass muderers of children. Nor do I deem those who do as employing subjective morality.
Its a game of football.
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When you put diesel in your motor do you put a tea towel on your head? Do you lecture other motorists about how many people the USA have executed over the last 6 years? When your daughter watches Disney do you warn her Snow White was unmarried when she thrust her unconscious body at Prince Charming and therefore should be stoned to death?

Ha! I thought not. You just divant understand.
 
Rogue Badger said:
When you put diesel in your motor do you put a tea towel on your head? Do you lecture other motorists about how many people the USA have executed over the last 6 years? When your daughter watches Disney do you warn her Snow White was unmarried when she thrust her unconscious body at Prince Charming and therefore should be stoned to death?

Ha! I thought not. You just divant understand.
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:lol::lol::lol:👏👏👏
 
John the Savage said:
Sometimes Governments have to have some economic relationships with shady regimes/countries -all counties do.
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Subjective morality.
John the Savage said:
That doesn't mean football fans have to put up with it.
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Put up with what?
I put up with being a Newcastle fan. I don't condone atrocities. But then again when does our country not condone atrocities and the people?
Subjective morality always comes into play.
John the Savage said:
It's the fans game, the clubs, the leagues belong to the fans and you can guarantee, a time is coming very soon when blood money will not be accepted in our game.
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I'd love all clubs to be on a level playing field and all the riches were taken away from it.
If Newcastle United was taken over tomorrow by Fred Bloggs the Newcastle fan who wants to run it on in-house means, I'm still going to be the Newcastle fan getting behind the club and anyone who plays for it.

You can believe that or cast it aside.
John the Savage said:
Mark last week as sea-change, the party is nearly over for NUFC and anyone else involved in it.
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What will be will be. I'm not in charge of any of that and I take every day as it comes.
 
Dilligaf60 said:
Thousands of people are starving to death as I type. Most of them children. And he is taking money from the savages Responsible for it. What does that make him? It really is no more complex than that. I’d like to see someone ask him how he sleeps at night. I’ve seen all sorts of whataboutery and complicated theories about this whole situation. But it really isn’t any of that. In this instance I want to know what drives a man to take money from the murderers of children.
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If the children weren't dying, there'd be no need for the sportswashing, and there'd be no lucrative contract for Eddie and no new centre forward for the best fans in the world.

It all begins with dead children. The future success of Newcastle depends on the continuing deaths of children. And those deaths are a price worth paying when you've suffered like Newcastle fans have suffered.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
Lets not pretend what you were referring to wasn't fans of Sunderland morally objecting to what is happening in Saudi is merely because they own Newcastle eh?
If you think stating that distances you from what is now the sporting face of Saudi Arabia (you hd one free weekend and were summoned to play a game there man) then fair enough.
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And going back this week to train to fly jets into buildings
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Subjective morality.

Put up with what?
I put up with being a Newcastle fan. I don't condone atrocities. But then again when does our country not condone atrocities and the people?
Subjective morality always comes into play.

I'd love all clubs to be on a level playing field and all the riches were taken away from it.
If Newcastle United was taken over tomorrow by Fred Bloggs the Newcastle fan who wants to run it on in-house means, I'm still going to be the Newcastle fan getting behind the club and anyone who plays for it.

You can believe that or cast it aside.

What will be will be. I'm not in charge of any of that and I take every day as it comes.
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Let's call a spade a spade mate. You are claiming subjective morality just because you believe us, as Sunderland fans are suddenly becoming advocates of human rights and criticising Saudi Arabia merely because they own Newcastle? Lets be honest now.
Of course, if has brought in right into focus but ask yourself would you be referring to it as subjective morality if it was any other club than your own? These are bairns being killed, human lives being extinguished on large scale, this isn't a game mate. Knowing that other humans shouldn't be killed in such numbers is as base-level morals as it is possible to possess as a functioning human being.

Take a look at the thread when "House of Saud" was broadcast a few years back. There was a load of criticism and disgust, including from myself.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
How would I be defending them?


So here's the thing, do we all give up everything we rely on from countries we deem bad?
If so then let's go all out and banish all football clubs and all sports and all the rest of the stuff made by countries we feel are not morally up to our standards.

Where does this leave us?
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On the moral high ground. Something you ***** know fuckall about.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Subjective morality.

Put up with what?
I put up with being a Newcastle fan. I don't condone atrocities. But then again when does our country not condone atrocities and the people?
Subjective morality always comes into play.

I'd love all clubs to be on a level playing field and all the riches were taken away from it.
If Newcastle United was taken over tomorrow by Fred Bloggs the Newcastle fan who wants to run it on in-house means, I'm still going to be the Newcastle fan getting behind the club and anyone who plays for it.

You can believe that or cast it aside.

What will be will be. I'm not in charge of any of that and I take every day as it comes.
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Sportswashed☝️
 
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