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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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MonkeyLove said:
That tank is a long way away mind. Also have the higher ground and sideways on. But agree they look a bit exposed.

They are hit and run squads though apparently so will be constantly on the move. Their role is apparently to stalk enemy units, find an advantageous position, hit it, and then basically be away on their toes. So I’d imagine they were straight off that roof after that
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No, what I meant is that the tweet and the video can tell me with ten seconds on Wikipedia exactly where their position was:

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Right there. That roof.

I imagine they will indeed be straight off, but talk about putting something onto a target list for an airstrike. The thing's a damn airport terminal; not exactly hard to find.
 
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SYB_DC said:
No, what I meant is that the tweet and the video can tell me with ten seconds on Wikipedia exactly where their position was:

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Right there. That roof.

I imagine they will indeed be straight off, but talk about putting something onto a target list for an airstrike. The thing's a damn airport terminal; not exactly hard to find.
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Video will be posted long after they have moved on.
 
wisemensaysteve said:
Video will be posted long after they have moved on.
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And if they didn't post it at all, they'd have a much better choice of re-using the firing position. Yes, it's morbidly fascinating for fat English-speaking dudes to sit in their mothers' basements (fine, I'm not fat and it's my own basement, but I'm still fascinated) and watch videos of Ukrainian soldiers kicking ass, but there is some actual strategic value in that video to the enemy.
 
bobster999 said:
he might feel untouchable at the minute but that seems like a daft thing to do
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Not at all. He is the elected leader and if he falls so does the country. If Putin (I won't say Russia because it's really just him) assassinates him, I know it's difficult to imagine any worse revulsion from everywhere else over what's going on, but that would certainly achieve that.
 
elder said:
just hope the ukrainian conventional military can hold out and inflict as much damage on the russians as possible. then the real fun begins.
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That phase will be no fun for anyone. It will be like the worst days of summer wars: hot and silent but for occasional gunfire and the flies buzzing over the bodies.
 
SYB_DC said:
That phase will be no fun for anyone. It will be like the worst days of summer wars: hot and silent but for occasional gunfire and the flies buzzing over the bodies.
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the most rudimentary IEDs in Afghanistan cost $1 to make... the place should be awash with them by then. never mind the remaining high tech weapons that should still be around.
the russians will struggle to move around by land or air, hopefully.
 
Jean-Luc Picard, facing the Borg threat of 2366, asked rhetorically:

"I wonder if the Emperor Honorious, watching the Visigoths coming over the seventh hill, could truly realize that the Roman Empire was about to fall. This is just another page in history, isn't it? Will this be the end of our civilization? Turn the page."
 
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For context below are the entire British army armour vehicles
  • 979 Armoured Personnel Carriers
  • 1,814 Protected Mobility Vehicles
  • 1,192 Armoured Fighting Vehicles
 
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englishman abroad said:
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For context below are the entire British army armour vehicles
  • 979 Armoured Personnel Carriers
  • 1,814 Protected Mobility Vehicles
  • 1,192 Armoured Fighting Vehicles
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one thing i keeping thinking on is what life is like for the russians who have now been deployed for a couple of weeks, plus their pre-deployment in holding areas etc..
That's a few weeks without 'fresh' food, a shower, clean clothes, sleeping rough, cold, wet, dealing with shit equipment, poor communications, breakdowns, getting on each other's nerves...

never mind having to actually fight or fight off the ukrainians and deal with losses & casualties.
after a week on exercise i was pissed off and ready to fuck off back to barracks. moral will be really low, particularly with the conscripts.
usually you'd pull back troops for R&R and replace them but that's hard to do when you're stuck in a 60km traffic jam.
 
Anyone else finding the coverage of this war peculiar?

Boats sinking but no footage. All these planes going down but no footage. I’m not suggesting anything fishy is going on it just feels very different to what I’ve seen in the past in Iraq, Syria, Afganistan etc.

Also what’s gan on with that convoy? It could have driven to Sunderland by now.
 
englishman abroad said:
In Afghanistan in 10 years the Russians lost
15,000 men
451 aircraft
147 tanks
1,313 APC's

As Hertling points out, when there have to start street fighting the casualty rates will increase significantly.

I'm staggered the opposition the Ukrainians are putting up
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Im staggered so many people under estimated the Ukrainians, look at the size of their army.. added to the fact they’re on home turf with an actual reason to fight.
 
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