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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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There's a limit to the action we can take without provoking a full tonto nuclear moment from Putin.

As it stands there are thousands dying and millions displaced. The nuclear scenario is millions dying and billions displaced.

The no fly zone was everybodies favourite thing for a while but in reality they're almost impossible unless you have air supremacy (not just air superiority).
Incorrect. Putin won’t go nuclear. Don’t give in to the fear he wants to create.
 

Happy Monday(s) lads and lasses, been busy over the weekend with work so I don’t think I’ve read or posted anything since Friday.

In the long run it’s probably for the best for my own state of mind.

Can someone give me a brief rundown of how the last couple of days has gone?

Both in Ukraine and on this thread :lol:
Putin's agreed routes out of cities for civilians... but they only lead to Belarus or Russia.
 
Happy Monday(s) lads and lasses, been busy over the weekend with work so I don’t think I’ve read or posted anything since Friday.

In the long run it’s probably for the best for my own state of mind.

Can someone give me a brief rundown of how the last couple of days has gone?

Both in Ukraine and on this thread :lol:
You missed a canny argument about public schools in the uk
 
His country is under siege so I would expect him to tbh.
He's also wanting to drag the whole world into this which could result in nuclear war.
Apart from that....
Yeah that’s definitely it. Keep deflecting from the fact Johnson and the Tories are so deep in Putin’s pocket they aren’t doing anything to upset the oligarchs already here. Imagine thinking Johnson was a good PM :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Putin's agreed routes out of cities for civilians... but they only lead to Belarus or Russia.

Perfect username for someone giving an update on the war ;)
You missed a canny argument about public schools in the uk

Probably similar to many I’ve read before like, but do you have a rough page number so I can go back and check??

To everyone: is that dullard Putin sympathiser still lurking?
 
The Ukrainians are pushing the narrative that Russia are a threat to the West as they are targeting nuclear plants and the West would also be impacted by any catastrophe. I’ve seen Zelensky, Poroshenko, other MPs make similar arguments today.

Whilst this is a bit far fetched there is a point here. They are fighting near them and the there has been some suggestion Putin could use one in a false flag.

Not an expert but it seems that they scale of the reactors now are considerably bigger in some cases and if anything did happen there likely also wouldn’t be the containment effort that stopped Chernobyl being even worse.

Modern facilities are a lot more secure but the consensus seems to be if Russia targeted one deliberately or in the right place accidentally it would cause a disaster.
 
Perfect username for someone giving an update on the war ;)


Probably similar to many I’ve read before like, but do you have a rough page number so I can go back and check??

To everyone: is that dullard Putin sympathiser still lurking?
Around 21,448 post? But don't start the argument off again man...was a bit of a distraction :lol:
 
Incorrect. Putin won’t go nuclear. Don’t give in to the fear he wants to create.

He strikes me as a completely selfish fucker who is increasingly realising his life’s dream of his vision for Russia will never be realised. He is also now fucked one way or the other, he is not going to head off to a couple of decades of peaceful retirement after this. His people will get him or the Global community will.

I think it’s also highly unlikely but we may well be dependent on him not making a selfish irrational decision and/or whatever checks and balances are in the Russian command system
 
There’s not a chance they would join NATO. They could hang Vlad in Red Square and still wouldn’t join NATO. Aggression by China towards them would be the only reason I could ever see them wanting to join. Chances of that are about zero.

The absolute best we can hope for, imo, is his removal(has to be death) and a less aggressive, confrontational Russia.

NATO wouldn't have Russia but I could definitely see a scenario that Russia join NATO in the coming decades. After all Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union not that long ago and are now very keen for NATO and EU membership.

Russia is a cultured European country and a declining power in denial. With China on course to become the new global superpower it would make sense for North America and Europe to embrace Russia at some point assuming they come into line after Putin.
 
Yeah that’s definitely it. Keep deflecting from the fact Johnson and the Tories are so deep in Putin’s pocket they aren’t doing anything to upset the oligarchs already here. Imagine thinking Johnson was a good PM :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Most do mate ...sorry to break it to you
As I said I'll leave it there as this thread is for updates and not cheap politcal point scoring from daft remainer lefties such as yourself.
 
Incorrect. Putin won’t go nuclear. Don’t give in to the fear he wants to create.
Thank you Mr Kissinger for your assurances.

He's already crafted a scenario whereby he feels justified to invade a neighbouring country (twice!)

We don't risk escalation with a potentially unstable despot.
 
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He strikes me as a completely selfish fucker who is increasingly realising his life’s dream of his vision for Russia will never be realised. He is also now fucked one way or the other, he is not going to head off to a couple of decades of peaceful retirement after this. His people will get him or the Global community will.

I think it’s also highly unlikely but we may well be dependent on him not making a selfish irrational decision and/or whatever checks and balances are in the Russian command system
Those who know him personally are convinced he will do absolutely anything to survive. It’s about survival for him now.

I’m not sure he’d start lobbing nukes at NY or London but how can you ever be sure? He’s killed thousands of his own people. The apartment bombing were him. If he can do that to his own then you can’t rule anything out.
 
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