Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[MonkeyLove]

I read it that he would get them through official channels (Assad), the mercenaries fighting for Ukraine are not as far as I can make out being recruited through official channels.

Well the Ukrainian government called for foreign fighters and the tens of thousands that have joined are being armed and supported and fed by Ukraine. Most are ex military so taking their own stuff as well but equipment will be Ukrainian. So it’s pretty official.

Not defending the Russians but it’s essentially the same thing as they are doing with Syrian fighters

 

[cosmicchris00]

Aye I saw this mentioned in an article yesterday, on Putin’s general miscalculation of how this whole thing would go. There is a significant pro-Russian minority in Ukraine under normal circumstances, but Putin has managed to unite pretty much everyone in Ukraine against him now. Outside Luhansk and Donbas, the pro-Russian element has pretty much dissipated and isn’t coming back.

There were recent accounts of ethnic Russian residents of the Donbas shouting 'go home' and 'we don't want you here' to the Russian invaders.

There are also many other accounts since 2014 where the people of the Donbas region have been 'liberated' by Russian irregulars and then attacked by Ukrainian defenders.

They're caught in the middle of a war only Putin wanted

 

[Bulwell]

it's also just across the border from russia. the russians did shell it yesterday as well though. they are clearly off the charts mental:

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It could also be Russia's way out of this war if they feel they can't win, another Chernobyl and everyone calls it a day?

 

[safcforever]

Banned tv?

Streaming services and some social media

seen a few posts like this claiming only .ru sites will be available in russia?

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[cosmicchris00]

I’m not saying we should attempt a no fly zone. It would appear to be as pointless practically as it would dangerous.

But the problem is Putin will be either willing to use nuclear weapons or not. So this argument is not going to go away now. Depending on what he wants at some point the West will have to confront him with the same risk in place or we just let him do what he wants

The way to address Putin aggression at the moment is to covertly supply as much support as possible to Ukraine.

Anything else is escalation.

Depending which source you use, the consensus is Putin may have as little as 3 months before the Russian economy completely collapses.

 

[safcforever]

I’m not saying we should attempt a no fly zone. It would appear to be as pointless practically as it would dangerous.

But the problem is Putin will be either willing to use nuclear weapons or not. So this argument is not going to go away now. Depending on what he wants at some point the West will have to confront him with the same risk in place or we just let him do what he wants

its a fine line. If he knows we will always back down from the threat then where does he end. However we have to do what we can to avoid nuclear war.

We have to decide what point do we risk the end of humanity as we know it or let Putin take what he wants.

 

[3.142]

The way to address Putin aggression at the moment is to covertly supply as much support as possible to Ukraine.

Anything else is escalation.

Depending which source you use, the consensus is Putin may have as little as 3 months before the Russian economy completely collapses.

Question is what the collapse of the economy will trigger. Nuclear response? Coup? Putin being killed/attacked? Putin backing down?

 

[cosmicchris00]

Going to be a long haul back for the people there. Assuming they stay free even, some of the things they will have seen man.

And the relationship with Russia? Good luck with that. Can you even imagine it.

They'll never forgive Russia for this.

Ukraine will turn Westward and never look back.

The only way a meaningful future relationship can be built is for regime change in Moscow

 

[viccarlton]

And
It shows the man can have a bit of fun.
Some right boring bxxxxxx get on here mind.
Would you prefer him to knee instead

If I knew what knee was I might have an opinion, the man is a buffoon, I wouldn’t trust him to book me a taxi.

 

[safcforever]

Question is what the collapse of the economy will trigger. Nuclear response? Coup? Putin being killed/attacked? Putin backing down?

I think theyre already at the point of no return. It will take a lifetime to get themselves back even to where they were a month ago (Putin and his buddies will be ok, but the real Russians wont see the same sort of life ever again)



We are lucky to be born where we are. We take it for granted sometimes but I really do feel lucky some days

 

[maghater]

The way to address Putin aggression at the moment is to covertly supply as much support as possible to Ukraine.

Anything else is escalation.

Depending which source you use, the consensus is Putin may have as little as 3 months before the Russian economy completely collapses.

In the meantime the western economies aren't exactly thriving, oil and whet prices through the roof, stock markets plummeting and the dollar soaring, not to mention inflation now being tipped to edge 10%.

If I knew what knee was I might have an opinion,

wow try removing your blinkers, might be a good start

 

[cosmicchris00]

In the meantime the western economies aren't exactly thriving, oil and whet prices through the roof, stock markets plummeting and the dollar soaring, not to mention inflation now being tipped to edge 10%.

wow try removing your blinkers, might be a good start

We were due correction of some sort anyway after Trump fanned the Dow Jones - not that I'm pleased about it (I'd like to retire in a few yor and daren't check me pension)

 

[Wild Card]

They'll never forgive Russia for this.

Ukraine will turn Westward and never look back.

The only way a meaningful future relationship can be built is for regime change in Moscow

Said it a few times Russia have completely lost Ukraine to the west now. Unless Russia puts in a stooge. The EU/NATO/rest of world will rebuild Ukraine, it will become part of a successful trading block and in time flourish. Russia, as long as Putin reigns, or is being aggressive, will wilt back into a transition country/economy and become China's bitch.

Russia have lost.

 

[viccarlton]

In the meantime the western economies aren't exactly thriving, oil and whet prices through the roof, stock markets plummeting and the dollar soaring, not to mention inflation now being tipped to edge 10%.

wow try removing your blinkers, might be a good start

Can only comment and have an opinion on what I see.

 

[FoldingStars]

Seems macron is being played

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Macron seems to have been played every time he's had a conversation/meeting with Putin. Don't think it would be any different with any leader from Europe though, can't see many people changing his mind when he clearly thinks he knows right 100% of the time.

Only way I see this ending is regime change in Russia and we just have to hope it's not a Putin MK2.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

They'll never forgive Russia for this.

Ukraine will turn Westward and never look back.

The only way a meaningful future relationship can be built is for regime change in Moscow

You have to question any Russian thinking. You cant kill innocent civilians and obliterate a country and expect the population to be on side.

Even if they do 'win' the military war the Russians will face massive insurgence in the short to medium term and have resentment for generations.

 

[Lankester Merrin]

Are we witnessing genuine human concern, or the ability of global state-corporate interests to sell essentially the same story over and over again? The same bad guy: Milosevic, Bin Laden, Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad and Putin; the same Good Guys: US, UK, NATO and ‘our’ obedient clients; the same alleged noble cause: freedom, democracy, human rights; the same means: confrontation, violence, a flood of bombs and missiles (‘the best ones’). And the same results: control of whole countries, massively increased arms budgets, and control of natural resources.

Also, is this Johnsons Falklands moment?

Yet another account doing Putin's work for him

 

[RossTheNinja]

Really? Cultural sanctions are hugely important. In a world where they net news from the Kremlin, it will at least make them think that their govt is on the wrong side of this

This isn’t North Korea where they know nothing else

It might. It might make them think they're being punished for the actions of someone who is already oppressing them.

 

[Az*]

Macron seems to have been played every time he's had a conversation/meeting with Putin. Don't think it would be any different with any leader from Europe though, can't see many people changing his mind when he clearly thinks he knows right 100% of the time.

Only way I see this ending is regime change in Russia and we just have to hope it's not a Putin MK2.

He’s another with an election looming ain’t he?

At the minute it seems the only people in place to take over from him are the Communists. They are disjointed and agree with his views on the East anyway. It’s so hard to get a handle on wtf is going on in their country. Mad bastards.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

And
It shows the man can have a bit of fun.
Some right boring bxxxxxx get on here mind.
Would you prefer him to knee instead

Johnson was an embarrassment then and even more of one now. Rancid.