The West. And in case you missed it - he’s got the message loud and clear over the past ten years.
Ditto.
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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)
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The West. And in case you missed it - he’s got the message loud and clear over the past ten years.
Ditto.
Booey
Winger
Horrific. Lucky to be alive.Took nigh on 15 minutes into Sky News ten o'clock news for this to come on, was the third story
The two extremes of a nuclear weapon being triggered at one end, and letting him have all of Europe at the other
I think the West/World has been far too soft, this fucker needed a strong response day one and very little has been done, we are playing the long game happy to accept Ukrainian men, women and children being murdered at will.
Putin correctly assessed that a weak US president wouldn't lift a finger and Europe won't do a thing without the USA taking the lead.
I'm gutted for these poor people absolutely gutted, we won't even immediately seize the assets of Putin's associates in this country, its a joke.
Based on his clear and established expansionary intent - where’s the middle ground?
Dobblemackem
Winger
If he gets to our doorstep, or even anywhere close to it, it inevitable leads to ww3 and most likely nuclear war. That’s what NATO is about.
I seriously can’t grasp why people want to fight now, or create no fly zones etc. Your basically giving a mad man, licence to end you and anyone you care about life.
If this was just about me, then that’s one thing, I still wouldn’t be happy, knowingly creating a war and risking my life, but if it came to it, fair enough. However my kid isn’t even two year old, I have plenty bairns in the family who haven’t had a chance at life, my sister is in her twenties, the Mrs, friends, family I could go on, but I seriously don’t want them to be at risk for the sake of us poking a lunatic bear in a fight that isn’t ours.
I f***ing hate what this arsehole is doing, however do I want my loved ones to be at risk, no I don’t. The action we are taking is already risky, and showing commaradery.
I’m honestly interested to know the demographic of those saying fight, or create no fly zones etc. Do you lot have families, loved ones, how old are you etc.
Suomifinland
Central Defender
Yes UK govt is bent as fuck. Any non gammon can see that.
But harsh as it is, Ukraine was ex USSR. Not saying that's right but saying he would now go past that is a big jump.
He does have form of biting a chunk & then waiting a few years but this is bigger. I'm pretty confident that 1) he won't try to take a "Western" or "Nato" state & 2) if he did then a line would be crossed.
Finnish president Niinistö met Biden today In USA for example.
That’s an optimistic Friday thread for sure
Just because he’s said it, it doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s brinkmanship.
Suomifinland
Central Defender
Sorry that the UK govt has spread their legs wide to dirty Russian money. And tbf South if France as well.
The Russian govt calls London "The Laundry" BTW...
Mr Redknapp
Striker
The exposure of Russian money in the government has been a disgrace but we have labour politicians lauding the arrival of Saudi's at Newcastle United..
.All in it for themselves
Putting aside the rather sensationalist claim about the “U.K. govt” - if we genuinely think he would start a nuclear war otherwise, why wouldn’t we also just back off and let him have the Baltic NATO states?
A piece of paper? We would find our conscience and our bollocks over a piece of paper, rather than the lives of innocent Ukrainians?
SAFCOldie
Striker
I think there is a good chance of a small nuclear attack if Nato get involved to any degree. I've even read a newspaper report about how such a scenario could help the climate
Crackers stuff.
Luna17
Striker
Would love them and that guy who write for the DM to explain exactly how they are gonna run out of money etc and not be able to prolong the war beyond ten days. Is the 40 mile convoy just going to turn around and head home ? It's bollocks man, pure fantasy (sadly).
OOOSH YEAH
Striker
I’m sorry but yet again that’s bolocks. The Russians have very capable hardware. Some of the stuff they have is top of the range. They have tactical nukes and they haven’t yet used some of the stuff they have up their sleeve. They’re shit and look absolutely amateur but let’s be honest here that’s a load of shite
What’s that got to do with the price of eggs?
Concordsafc
Midfield
Red or blue different arse cheeks same hole. All in it for themselves UK mps they don’t care where the money comes
From.
You read a lot of stuff mindI think there is a good chance of a small nuclear attack if Nato get involved to any degree. I've even read a newspaper report about how such a scenario could help the climate
I’m not talking about what he’s said about the next ten years. I’m talking about what he’s done over the last ten.
He demonstrably doesn’t just “talk”. Unlike the spineless west, he also “does”,
Lankester Merrin
Striker
Why the insult?
Soft play area....
Keep it in the politics thread.
Because it makes the discussion infantile
We can talk about Fiona hill's essays on the long war, or on multi-front war, but we can't talk about aspects of that long war like Trump or Brexit
We can talk about Russian expecting the West to be disunited and divided, but we can't talk about the work that Russia did to make the West disunited and divided like Trump and Brexit
This isn't about threads, it's about right wingers trying to censor views that make them feel uncomforable
if you want a soft play area go watch CBeebies
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