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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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What if we all agree that Ukraine won't join NATO? If Putin isn't full of it, he leaves the country.

We can then wait til he dies/gets the boot and Ukraine can join later.


We had that option before he invaded but I doubt it would have made a difference, Putin denies the right of Ukraine to exist and always has done.
 

I can't even imagine the sense of safety and gratitude when you're panicked and stressed at leaving your country and home and then strangers show up at the strain station with flowers for you and a place to stay

The biggest positive from all this shit is that we have hope.
The acts of kindness has given most of us some much needed hope for the human race.
🙏❣️
 
Anyone else think the Americans aren't quite doing enough here. Energy self-sufficient and largely food self-sufficient and won't be affected by the huge displacement of people. Reluctant to deploy troops after Afghanistan I just wonder whether they see this as more of a European problem. I think Biden has come across as weak in all this too.
 
The biggest positive from all this shit is that we have hope.
The acts of kindness has given most of us some much needed hope for the human race.
🙏❣️
I would have liked to think so but I remember when everyone said the world would be a better place with people behaving better once covid ended, for what it's worth I would threaten Putin with a vial full of virus :lol:
I wish
 
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Anyone else think the Americans aren't quite doing enough here. Energy self-sufficient and largely food self-sufficient and won't be affected by the huge displacement of people. Reluctant to deploy troops after Afghanistan I just wonder whether they see this as more of a European problem. I think Biden has come across as weak in all this too.

I’ve no doubt Americans are running this resistance.
 
Serious question. Reckon the UK would vote Brexit at the min?

Seems that decision was taken after a period of total stability. Ignore the brexit shambles but... Given united scenes in Europe with welcoming refugees & that an independent country has been picked off, reckon UK would still be 51% leave?
 
I’ve no doubt Americans are running this resistance.

This. No doubt whatsoever the CIA (or proxies of) are in there.

Was talk of a large Israeli presence. That to me means USA involved.

Good 👍

Russia bans Twitter​

This just in: has banned Twitter throughout the country, according to Interfax news agency.

Haha what a f***ing mess.
 
Serious question. Reckon the UK would vote Brexit at the min?

Seems that decision was taken after a period of total stability. Ignore the brexit shambles but... Given united scenes in Europe with welcoming refugees & that an independent country has been picked off, reckon UK would still be 51% leave?
You need to direct that question to Mr Putin, but he's a little busy at the moment, he'll decide it
 
Anyone else think the Americans aren't quite doing enough here. Energy self-sufficient and largely food self-sufficient and won't be affected by the huge displacement of people. Reluctant to deploy troops after Afghanistan I just wonder whether they see this as more of a European problem. I think Biden has come across as weak in all this too.
I recon a lot of the drone strikes are us strikes to be honest, not saying I’ve any evidence of this as I don’t but they are experts In that field and there has been some on point drone work
 
I suspect all they have is ropey gear. Hard to tell if its true, but I've seen posts in Ukraine that are meant to be Russian army rations. They were 5 years past their expiry. The tyres on the tanks are cheap Chinese knock offs and apparently are really shite.
On the rations part, We were given rations that were out of date on exercise in basic training. Only thing we were told to avoid was the tinned cheese :lol:
 
Serious question. Reckon the UK would vote Brexit at the min?

Seems that decision was taken after a period of total stability. Ignore the brexit shambles but... Given united scenes in Europe with welcoming refugees & that an independent country has been picked off, reckon UK would still be 51% leave?
Probably needs its own thread in politics and not here.
 
There’s no doubt in my mind that Putin is rattled. His demeanour has completely changed in his last few speeches. He looks tired, edgy and isn’t his usual composed self and seems unsure. Now he’s reaching out to neighbouring countries and asking for normalisation of nations.

There’s no way he was expecting this invasion to last so long. He certainly wasn’t expecting the world’s reaction and demonisation of him and how quickly Russia would be affected by sanctions. He wasn’t expecting the Ukrainian peoples reaction either.

He’s probably been lied to by his generals about the state of his army and he wouldn’t have thought he’d be seeing hundreds of broken down or abandoned pieces of equipment and he wouldn’t have thought they’d be any logistical issues. He certainly wouldn’t have expected his soldiers to be dissenting and desserting

He’s rattled alright and beginning to have the look of a man who knows the game is up. He’s a dead man walking
 
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