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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Concordsafc said:
Watched a lot of videos back and lots of the Russians are young boys who are not soldiers in the slightest, I’ve watched videos back they do not move act or even look like soldiers those conscripts sent in first to death and captured scared of putin obviously had some career soldiers here but not a lot

As the fighting Intensifies you can see the difference between the quality in the Russian forces they are sending in better trained soldiers with better tactics and starting to battle and beat the Ukrainians which is heart breaking.

I hope this war is over as soon as to stop the lossses of human life. Putin needs outing as quick as he can he will push and push and push.
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Wagners army I reckon
 
Kevj said:
And if I were a Ukrainian, I’d be pretty pissed off if the Russians nuked the fuck out of my city because a foreign country made the wrong decision.
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I agree mate 100% but there was 2 or 3 decisive things that happened before the invasion witch might have avoided the invasion from ever becoming real. Eu membership refusal. Nato membership refusal and the retreat of nato troops. For me and in my opinion only these acts left the door open for putin to attack.

No help before
No help during
And imo no help after.
 
beverly macca said:
I agree mate 100% but there was 2 or 3 decisive things that happened before the invasion witch might have avoided the invasion from ever becoming real. Eu membership refusal. Nato membership refusal and the retreat of nato troops. For me and in my opinion only these acts left the door open for putin to attack.

No help before
No help during
And imo no help after.
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Nato have been very poor for me to be fair
 
EchoMan said:
Sadly I agree. They’re doing so by indiscriminate shelling to demoralise the people. A divided Ukraine is looking the most likely outcome of this.
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Wtf do you do when people, kids and hospitals are getting bombed

Comes to a point when you’ve got to say we’ve had enough

Trouble then starts with groups of people still wanting to have a go and not give in
 
I can’t help thinking that the west and Russians hoped/thought the Ukrainians would surrender, and it would keep Putin happy.

It would explains the hectic after thought of aid and arms from the west and the lack of organisation on the ruskie side.
 
beverly macca said:
I agree mate 100% but there was 2 or 3 decisive things that happened before the invasion witch might have avoided the invasion from ever becoming real. Eu membership refusal. Nato membership refusal and the retreat of nato troops. For me and in my opinion only these acts left the door open for putin to attack.

No help before
No help during
And imo no help after.
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There was a hugely informative post a few days ago which cited a number of academics who have extensive knowledge of Russia and their politics. The consensus from a few of these is that Russia, and more so Putin see the EU and NATO aligning with Ukraine as aggression. A deliberate act to move into Russian territory and weaken Russia. Decisions to not incorporate Ukraine into both has most likely delayed Putin’s attack. We (the west) see their joining as positive. Putin sees this as aggression.

It’s not an easy ride and decisions need to be fully thought out before acted upon in the basis we do t have the same culture or political outlook.
 
Napoleon Dynamite said:
Wtf do you do when people, kids and hospitals are getting bombed

Comes to a point when you’ve got to say we’ve had enough

Trouble then starts with groups of people still wanting to have a go and not give in
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I don’t know what you do and I’m not going to give an opinion. None of us know what is going on behind the scenes. But it’s good to see the West acting in unison on sanctions - something Putin didn’t expect.

France and Germany seizing superyachts is a massive move. Keep the pressure on.
 
beverly macca said:
I can’t help thinking that the west and Russians hoped/thought the Ukrainians would surrender, and it would keep Putin happy.

It would explains the hectic after thought of aid and arms from the west and the lack of organisation on the ruskie side.
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Yep Russia also felt they would walk through.

I mean they will break Ukraine soon I think it’s looking that way.

Putin has failed his blitz kyiv if they don’t give up being shelled will be awful to be anywhere near lives will be ripped apart even more and the fighting will be fierce if Russians send in conscripts many will fall, if they decide to drop paras in they need the logistics to link up quick.
Kevj said:
There was a hugely informative post a few days ago which cited a number of academics who have extensive knowledge of Russia and their politics. The consensus from a few of these is that Russia, and more so Putin see the EU and NATO aligning with Ukraine as aggression. A deliberate act to move into Russian territory and weaken Russia. Decisions to not incorporate Ukraine into both has most likely delayed Putin’s attack. We (the west) see their joining as positive. Putin sees this as aggression.

It’s not an easy ride and decisions need to be fully thought out before acted upon in the basis we do t have the same culture or political outlook.
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He’s overstepped a mark killing children, putin has attacked because of nato and the west that is obvious all the west are showing him
Now is he can get away with it. They are not scared or a nuclear war they are scared of losing £££££
 
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GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Just dropped off the donations I got today at the local village collection hub, The village gets a bad name and rightly so at times, but steps up at times and does a lot of good things in the community and for the wider community. This today makes me happy & proud as we do get a rough perception at times. Well done Wheatley Hill.

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Bejesus. That's two posts of yours I've liked in a day. I'm going for a lie down.
 
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