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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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LineMonkey said:
Putin sees Ukraine looking to join the EU and the prospect of having a Western democracy on his doorstep as having his border being threatened as it would weaken his influence in the other Baltic states.
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That's part of what's odd about this, though. This is one of the later dominoes, not the earlier ones. The former Baltic republics of the USSR are already in the EU and NATO, and Finland and Sweden are in the EU. Like, the Baltic is already game over.
 
OOOSH YEAH said:
Tell me how? I don’t know and would be genuinely interested to see how you came to this conclusion

It isn’t though. He’s advocating no war. The sentiment is nice. If you don’t want people to comment on your thoughts don’t post them on a public discussion board.
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I think others get annoyed by him due to the way he sides more on the pro Russian side also not anti war admitted he would have a different opinion if it wasn’t Russia, I’ve no problem comrade cow but he can’t disguise where he stands on this.
 
Re Abromavich, “ All victims of war in Ukraine “ will this include Russians ?
Is he doing this in the hope that sanctions will not be imposed against him ?
Is this a deal his lawyers have offered to our Govt ?
I’m just thinking out loud here.
I note his main yacht Eclipse is currently in the Carribean.
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
If we take it at face value (and presumably we have to, given people would know if the funds didn't go where he said they will) then putin should be very worried. I thought abramovich was one of his closest allies, hell abramovich has bought yachts and all sorts for him. I don't think abramovich has suddenly become a lovely lad, but I can easily imagine that he knows which way the wind is blowing and doesn't want to be on Putin's side at the end of it. If he's thinking it, presumably other oligarchs are as well. And if they're thinking it, you'd have to imagine there'll be people on the military aiming to overthrow him, especially if they can be the golden boy for some of the richest people on earth. Probably an overly optimistic take but so fuck, we need a bit of positivity
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I’ve gone through the same thoughts myself. He also will have a lot of friends and obv cares about the club. Like you say also he will have spoken to the rest of the people who have Russia’s money in their bank accounts and this to me suggests he’s backing Ukraine which is a good sign.
 
Is he trying to start a f***ing war. Not the ADZ the actual air space of Sweden…

Air identification zone is common. Air space is a shooting down incident in the making

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Concordsafc said:
I think others get annoyed by him due to the way he sides more on the pro Russian side also not anti war admitted he would have a different opinion if it wasn’t Russia, I’ve no problem comrade cow but he can’t disguise where he stands on this.
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I’ll leave him to speak for himself but that’s not how I read it. Not everything is as black and white as choose a side.
 
T_Bone said:
Re Abromavich, “ All victims of war in Ukraine “ will this include Russians ?
Is he doing this in the hope that sanctions will not be imposed against him ?
Is this a deal his lawyers have offered to our Govt ?
I’m just thinking out loud here.
I note his main yacht Eclipse is currently in the Carribean.
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To be fair - if there’s no evidence that he’s supporting Putin or the war, he’s publicly acknowledging that it is a war, and he’s donating all this money to the victims, then I don’t think he deserves to be sanctioned.

We can’t just start sanctioning people because they are Russian. There has to be some evidence of/connection to wrongdoing. In calling it a war he’s already undermining Putin - Russia refuses to val it that and has banned its internal media from using the term.
 
southstander said:
I know it was never about the economy for Putin, but Russia is taking a financial beating.

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Putin himself is largely (personally) isolated from the economic hit. However the people propping him up aren’t.

Money talks, and at this stage the money is leaning in to the ear of every Russian oligarch and saying - “get rid of this mad twat before you lose everything”.
 
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OOOSH YEAH said:
I’ll leave him to speak for himself but that’s not how I read it. Not everything is as black and white as choose a side.
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That’s a difference of opinion mate and fair enough invaders killing children is black and white in my eyes I hope and pray non of you on here have to witness war first hand
 
OOOSH YEAH said:
Give me something he’s done in brief that backs up what you’re saying. As said I know nowt about him so I’ll take your word for it.
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Read mcmafia if you are interested in the subject. He was part of a group that asset stripped Russia in the years following the breakdown of soviet regime.
 
Sweeper said:
To be fair - if there’s no evidence that he’s supporting Putin or the war, he’s publicly acknowledging that it is a war, and he’s donating all this money to the victims, then I don’t think he deserves to be sanctioned.

We can’t just start sanctioning people because they are Russian. There has to be some evidence of/connection to wrongdoing. In calling it a war he’s already undermining Putin - Russia refuses to val it that and has banned its internal media from using the term.
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Abramovich is hardly a random Russian. He's been intimately connected with Putin for decades.
 
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