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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Scotty said:
i think if you were to google Stalingrad (well Volgograd now) you'd be surprised at how far east it is

For some reason I always assumed it was either in eastern Ukraine or just over the border
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About 600 mile from the Ukrainian border iirc, give or take. I’d like to visit there one day.
 
SYB_DC said:
Americans also have visa-free Schengen travel. Doesn't make the US part of Schengen or allow Americans to settle as refugees/immigrants/asylees permanently.
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I doubt there’s many tbf.

American or not, if I was escaping a war I’d want somewhere to go and worry about permanent asylum later.

Most Ukrainian refugees going west are entering Poland, Slovakia and Hungary, all in Schengen. Poland in particular is going out of their way to give asylum.
 
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UpTheDuff said:
Brit and Yank kit and clobber incoming. Interesting Twitter account this guy.

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There's an American one (a Rivet Joint, which for those without the lingo are recon-gathering and largely signals intelligence; basically, listening posts) flying back and forth over Romania near Moldova right now too.

And if you can find FORTE10 over Romania, that's a USAF recon drone.

For the tankers, it looks like the UK is handling the northern sector (see RRR9140 over Lithuania now) and the USAF the southern part (LAGR callsigns that loiter over Romania).

A few more unidentified airframes flying under US military callsigns are in eastern Poland too, plus the two DUKE callsigns (which are Black Hawk helicopters) that seem to have been up there during the day pretty consistently.

Also note RSD088, a Tu-204 en route from Moscow flying west over Belarus. That'll be the Russian negotiation delegation coming in.
 
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chrismisterx said:
But we have, it just wasn't a legal binding one, its why we ignored it, I can tell you now if it suited us we would have used that mandate to intervene.

It isnt a NATO issue either, we could have acted if we wanted too, same as the other countries that signed the mandate. Problem is one of the worlds biggest Nuclear powers did the invading.

Poland second world war we had no legal treaty to go to war with Germany if they invaded, but we did as it was our red line. We decided enough was enough.

So I didn't overlook it and already explained further on in the thread after that post.
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Clearly a war on civilians

We have been hearing from Ukrainians on the frontline of the war, who have been facing relentless Russian attacks for days now.

Oleksiy Demchenko, a 27-year old computer programmer in Kharkiv told the Guardian:

Right now we are just trying to hold on. To tell the truth it’s hell. There are a lot airstrikes.
They are hitting people’s houses, health facilities, the parks. I live in the centre of Kharkiv. We saw air strikes yesterday and we’re hiding in the bedroom because it’s the most secure place in house.
The Russians came into the city a few days ago but the army destroyed them. Now they are hitting us from outside. Yesterday I wanted to go out to fill bottles with water but air strikes were killing people. We have some social services trying to help us with deliveries of food and water.
I think their main goal is to break us psychologically because they want us to evacuate city. Its a terror tactic we saw in Chechnya and Afghanistan. But our army will protect us. People won’t surrender.
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ilovehorswill said:
I doubt there’s many tbf.

American or not, if I was escaping a war I’d want somewhere to go and worry about permanent asylum later.

Most Ukrainian refugees going west are entering Poland, Slovakia and Hungary, all in Schengen. Poland in particular is going out of their way to give asylum.
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I'm American. If I could legally live and work in the EU on a permanent basis, I'd do it.

We're kinda getting off topic here, though, which is how refugee/asylee flows will be processed. It seems Poland has been taking the moral and policy lead on it.
 
peil said:
45 here, but got Grangemouth 25 miles the other side of me, so i'm kind of screwed. not close enough to vapourise, but a lingering couple of weeks instead
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They aren’t going to nuke small places like that. And they won’t aim for our nuke dens because they know we will launch whilst theirs are still in mid-air.

Not that there ever will be nukes fired in this war even once we and allies get involved.
 
anitdontmajanow said:
Here is how world companies reacted to the war in Ukraine:

• Apple Pay — a complete blockage for Russian Federation;
• Apple — complete exit from the market;
• Adidas — stopped cooperating with the Russian national football team;
• Audi — exit from the market;
• AMD — a ban on the supply of microchips and soon a ban on the supply of video cards;
• Amazon — a full block of all retail will be for dessert;
• Adobe — turned off their services;
• British Petroleum - withdrew 20% of shares from Rosneft;
• BMW — closes factories, blocks the supply of cars and spare parts;
• Bolt — € 5 million in assistance to Ukraine;
• Chevrolet — leave the Russian market;
• Cannes Festival — block of the Russian delegation;
• Cadillac — leaving the market;
• Carlsberg — export restrictions;
• CEX IO — crypto-platform ban users of the Russian Federation;
• Cinema 4D — the application does not work;
• Coca-Cola — out of the market;
• Danone — exit the market together with its subsidiary Prostokvashino;
• Dell — exit the market;
• Dropbox — stops working in a few days;
• DHL — leaves the market;
• Eurovision — disqualification;
• Ericsson — exit from the market;
• Exxon Mobil — recall all specialists from Russian oil companies;
• Etsy — block of all balances on Russian accounts;
• Facebook — a ban on Russian media accounts;
• FedEx — complete ban on supplies;
• Formula 1 — cancellation of the Grand Prix in Sochi;
• Ford — closes all stores;
• FIFA — disqualification of the national team for the World Cup and a ban on holding any international matches in Russia;
• Google Pay — partial block;
• Google — $15 million in humanitarian aid to Ukraine;
• Google Maps — a block of information for Russians;
• Get Contact — mass distribution of truthful news;
• General Motors — stops exports;
• HP — leave the market;
• Harley Davidson — termination of supply;
• Instagram —blocking propaganda;
• Intel — ban on the supply of microchips;
• Jaguar — leaves the market;
• Jooble — removed the job search service;
• KUNA — impossibility of mining crypts for Russians;
• Lenovo — exit from the market;
• LinkedIn — preparing for full exit from the country;
• IOC — cancellation of all competitions;
• MasterCard — suspension of card production, disconnection of several sanctioned banks;
• Maersk — stop deliveries to / from Russia;
• Mercedes — exit from the market;
• Megogo — delete all Russian movies;
• Metro — 10,000 employees per exit;
• Mitsubishi — employees of 141 service centers — for exit;
• Microsoft Office — "a wide range of activities is being discussed";
• Mobile World Congress — the Russian delegation was not accredited;
• NFT — block of funds of users of Russia and Belarus, transfer of their money to Ukraine;
• NHL — a complete block for players from Russia;
• Netflix — a block for Russian subscriptions, stop production of Russian TV series;
• Nike — closing of all stores;
• Nintendo — a ban on purchases in rubles;
• Nestle — closes all 6 factories in Russia;
• OnlyFans — closure in Russia;
• Paysera — blocking;
• PayPal — freezing accounts for withdrawals.
• Paramount — block of film distribution;
• Parimatch — revoked the franchise; • PlayStation — cannot be paid;
• Porsche — exit from the Russian Federation;
• Renault — exit from the Russian Federation;
• Samsung Pay — blocking the service;
• Snapchat — a block of applications in Russia and Belarus, $ 15 million in assistance to Ukraine;
• Scania — exit from the Russian market;
• Shell — termination of the contract with Gazprom;
• Spotify — subscription cannot be paid;
• Sony — a block of film distribution.

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The small worry is that if the Russian people are cut off from the rest of the world they are far more likely to believe propaganda.
 
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