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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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chrismisterx said:
We have the mandate to help Ukraine if we wanted to, but we are doing as much as we can while keeping to the wishes of NATO, we have been using very strong rhetoric from the start, unlike for example Germany, who was been slow to react and needed a lot of pressure to bring them onboard.
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We really aren’t. The post you replied to explained that, but you’ve overlooked it totally for some reason.

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elder said:
allegedly Russian dead being taken back over the border to Belarus, at night. In afghanistan they quietly removed their dead and returned them to their families in sealed zinc coffins without any fanfare or recognition

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If there is that many Russians being killed then the news are missing so many stories. The main focus is bombs and sanctions
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Russia is one of the most unequal countries on earth. It makes the States look like Denmark. The top 500 oligarchs own 99.8% of all wealth in the country. Of which about 60% is offshore. That's 60% of all Russian wealth offshore.

Without the UK, South of France, etc. putting in sanctions to their houses, private schools for their kids, cars, etc. we're really only hurting normal society. In fact, at the moment once this is all over the Russian oligarchs will waltz back into Moscow and buy up anything else left.

Boris knows this.
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Maybe what is needed is a good old fashioned uprising, a revolution. Normal society can storm the Kremlin and bring in a democratic society.
 
safcforever said:
If there is that many Russians being killed then the news are missing so many stories. The main focus is bombs and sanctions
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as per afghanistan the russians have form. don't admit losses, don't make a big deal of returning their dead home. do it under cover of darkness, possibly under curfew (this was southern belarus)
it's amazing how similar this war is to every other war the soviets fought, at every level. their tactics/thinking/ideology has not progressed even if their countries have in other ways.
 
Bulwell said:
Great article.

My favourite weapon in this war, lovely bit of kit, cheap anarl.
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Didnt read the article I reckon there's a good chance any drones being used are also being operated by countries donating them - or contractors supplied by them. I can't imagine them training up inexperienced drone pilots that quickly. The beauty of them is no one could ever know who it is, and where they are doing it from.
 
brandon said:
We really aren’t. The post you replied to explained that, but you’ve overlooked it totally for some reason.

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But we have, it just wasn't a legal binding one, its why we ignored it, I can tell you now if it suited us we would have used that mandate to intervene.

It isnt a NATO issue either, we could have acted if we wanted too, same as the other countries that signed the mandate. Problem is one of the worlds biggest Nuclear powers did the invading.

Poland second world war we had no legal treaty to go to war with Germany if they invaded, but we did as it was our red line. We decided enough was enough.

So I didn't overlook it and already explained further on in the thread after that post.
 
Bulwell said:
I've seen plenty of evidence of that with my own eyes. In fact my wife showed me literally 2mins a go her Russian facebook friend claiming all the photos of ruins in Ukraine are from Yugoslavia. Another from Belarus was equally dismissive.
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Even among Russians who live in the West I see a mix of stuff, some anti-war, some protraying Ukrainians as fascists, not much anti-Putin
 
Napoleon Dynamite said:
Reckon his cronies would go along with Putin if he lost his shit and wanted to

Can’t see it myself, none of them will want to die
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What's the Plan Putesy?

"Invade our neighbours, and claim back our territory"

"Why?"

"Restore the glory days of the Soviet"

"What if the West get involved"

"We will fire some nukes at them"

"But won't they fire some at us?"

"Yes"

"Meaning we have no territory, as we are all dust, and no territory and dust is loads less than what we have right now"

"Yes"

"You sure you've thought this through Putesy?"
 
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