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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Baloo said:
Or Chinese copies…


Definitely won’t be the junior partner though.
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The Chinese are trying to build their own indigenous aviation industry, basically trying to pip the Russians. They'll see this as an opportunity for triumph, not cooperation.
 
SYB_DC said:
OK, two answers here (first from family in the industry (I'm not in it myself except in my capacity of advising clients)):

1) The Iranians kept a fairly substantial fleet of 1970s era Boeings flying on black-market spare parts and raw ingenuity for decades, albeit not under intensive use.

From me:

2) A lot of Aeroflot's fleet (like, 40% from memory) is leased from companies in Ireland and elsewhere (I think Bermuda). Due to the current sanctions, those contracts are now void for illegality. Any of those planes outside Russian territory will never fly for Aeroflot again. Any of them inside Russian territory are now stolen property if they fly them.
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I think something like 14 of the top 15 aviation leasing companies in the world are based in Ireland. The main person behind this was Tony Ryan, of Ryanair, who set up GPA in Shannon. Spawned loads of others.

The leases will be pulled now.
 
3.142 said:
I think it's fair to say that driving hours towards the border, picking students, women and children up, and then driving them back and giving them food and shelter in your own home is going above and beyond. Lots of Poles doing this sort of thing.
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Of course and it would be the same here. But let's not sidetrack the thread and just be pleased about how it's played out, there was no doubt in my mind that the Poles would step up to the plate👍
dom said:
Sounds like an Ed Sheehan song that mate!
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😄😂 Wouldn't have gone for Ed but see where you're coming from.
 
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3.142 said:
I think something like 14 of the top 15 aviation leasing companies in the world are based in Ireland. The main person behind this was Tony Ryan, of Ryanair, who set up GPA in Shannon. Spawned loads of others.

The leases will be pulled now.
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It's not that they will be pulled. They already have been, by operation of law. The leases are now void, not voidable. The contracts are illegal. Just a matter of getting the planes back at this point.
 
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RokerLegend said:
BBC had something on the website today about it. The ESA were supposed to be launching its own Rover to Mars but its using a Russian built lander. They now reckon it will be scrubbed as the lander cant be finished and if its not launched in sept/oct then it will need to wait another two years for the two planets to come close enough again.

It then mentioned the space station as Russian and Western systems are integral to it. More or less said the conflict on earth would be ignored by both to ensure continued operation.
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Space technology has managed to transcend politics better than any other industry for decades now. Not sure how it will play out here.
 
SAFCOldie said:
Of course and it would be the same here. But let's not sidetrack the thread and just be pleased about how it's played out, there was no doubt in my mind that the Poles would step up to the plate👍

😄😂 Wouldn't have gone for Ed but see where you're coming from.
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Nah, I jumped in too fast with my reply! 🤣
 
Hbk69 said:
Putin will never have the chance to put his finger on the nuclear trigger, even if he wanted to, no state ever will. The military control what is fired. The only nuclear threat is one rogue nuclear bomb from a pathetic terrorist organisation, and even that is highly unlikely.
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You don't believe Putin has a Stalinist like grip on power? I'm amazed he's managed to get this far then, albeit I can understand he'll have surrounded himself with Generals of a similar mind set is there a reason to believe at some point they'd part company with his thinking?
 
I'm impressed by the way the Ukrainians have fought

Clearly too many people in the upper echelons of the Russian state believed their own propaganda- they thought that ordinary Ukrainians would welcome Russian soldiers as liberators from the evil nazi government. It has been a massive shock that Ukrainians don't want to be run by Russia anymore

But there is a risk that we do the same- we assume that Putin's regime is equally fragile. it isn't. There may well be lost of Russians who would prefer Putin over a modern Western democracy
 
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