Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[Baloo]

@HillView Aviator
Or any other aviator type person. How long realistically can a plane last without needing a part replaced? All but 9 of Aeroflot’s fleet are Airbus or Boeing.

Number of aircraft​

B777
22
B737
37
A350
6
A330
12
A321/А321NХ
36
A320/А320N
64
SSJ-100
9

Can’t get any sort of definitive answer online, but it looks like at the most basic service level tyres and brakes on the big planes need to be replaced regularly.

I’m guessing buying knock off tyres and brakes will void the warranty, not what you want on a fleet worth over $70b.

I’m assuming they lease a lot of their fleet. Any idea if they’ll try and recall these planes or simply write them off?

 

[SAFCOldie]

Does Google not work in your world?

Not when I have to use it on the tippy tappy and then go back to the post on here to reply on such a fast moving thread AKA I'm shit on the tippy tappy.

I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere on this thread... but it advances faster than I do...

Doesn't the US and Russia co-operate on space these days? NASA uses Russian hardware to support the ISS doesn't it?

Is this a potential flash point if Russia but a block on this? Could NASA still supply the ISS without them or could the Russians take it over entirely if they were isolated on the ground?

I think so and then we also have Antarctica where the real world doesn't interfere and everyone gets on.

 

[---Nemo---]

All bets are off, of course, but my prediction earlier in the thread is that this will end with an overthrowing of Putin from within. Possibly when his calls for a Nuclear mobilisation is rejected.

By whom?

 

[Bulwell]

He can't win, increasingly looking weak and mad by the hour-ostracised by the entire world and embarrassed his nation like never before. A disastrous military campaign and troops surrendering by all accounts. This can't go on much longer.

^^^ In a nutshell ^^^

 

[dom]

All bets are off, of course, but my prediction earlier in the thread is that this will end with an overthrowing of Putin from within. Possibly when his calls for a Nuclear mobilisation is rejected.

It’ll end when the oligarchs who run Russia can’t lose any more money!

 

[look out piano]

By whom?

An assassin.....

 

[---Nemo---]

An assassin.....

Wishful thinking.

 

[Hbk69]

^^^ In a nutshell ^^^

He could never win, living in the 60s, he's lost his mind. Russia are pathetic as a power these days and have been for some time. Nukes are scary but unuseable in today's world. It's just heartbreaking the loss of life.

 

[wisemensaysteve]

No Jocks in my house!
Unless they recognise the ‘66 World Cup’

They always tell me it was 1967

 

[dom]

They always tell me it was 1967

Baxter was good but I’ve forgot the rest.

 

[FoldingStars]

I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere on this thread... but it advances faster than I do...

Doesn't the US and Russia co-operate on space these days? NASA uses Russian hardware to support the ISS doesn't it?

Is this a potential flash point if Russia but a block on this? Could NASA still supply the ISS without them or could the Russians take it over entirely if they were isolated on the ground?

Musk has said SpaceX could step in, there was a pretty big thread on twitter by some seemingly highly intelligent people saying how it wouldn't be that difficult (in th circumstances) to remove the Russian parts and retro fit new or excisiting parts.

 

[Hbk69]

Musk has said SpaceX could step in

Wtf? And do what exactly, hate this bollocks from Billionaires, give £1 billion to Ukraine for aid instead.

 

[---Nemo---]

He could never win, living in the 60s, he's lost his mind. Russia are pathetic as a power these days and have been for some time. Nukes are scary but unuseable in today's world. It's just heartbreaking the loss of life.

At an individual level is there a difference between the desperation of someone defending his home against tanks with a petrol bomb and Putin with his finger on the nuclear trigger? Please tell me there is.

 

[dom]

Musk has said SpaceX could step in, there was a pretty big thread on twitter by some seemingly highly intelligent people saying how it wouldn't be that difficult (in th circumstances) to remove the Russian parts and retro fit new or excisiting parts.

On which side?
The Grey’s?

 

[TravellingMackem]

It’ll end when the oligarchs who run Russia can’t lose any more money!

Depends what they stand to gain financially by invading Ukraine and potentially other countries too though to offset this. Very large silicon deposits in western Ukraine for instance which will be worth a pretty penny in the upcoming Information Age shift

 

[FoldingStars]

Wtf? And do what exactly, hate this bollocks from Billionaires, give £1 billion to Ukraine for aid instead.

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No idea as I don't even understand half the words they use in this thread but he replied to this and to a Russian when they said ISS would be ruined without Russia. Hope the link works.

 

[SYB_DC]

Can’t get any sort of definitive answer online, but it looks like at the most basic service level tyres and brakes on the big planes need to be replaced regularly.

I’m guessing buying knock off tyres and brakes will void the warranty, not what you want on a fleet worth over $70b.

I’m assuming they lease a lot of their fleet. Any idea if they’ll try and recall these planes or simply write them off?

OK, two answers here (first from family in the industry (I'm not in it myself except in my capacity of advising clients)):

1) The Iranians kept a fairly substantial fleet of 1970s era Boeings flying on black-market spare parts and raw ingenuity for decades, albeit not under intensive use.

From me:

2) A lot of Aeroflot's fleet (like, 40% from memory) is leased from companies in Ireland and elsewhere (I think Bermuda). Due to the current sanctions, those contracts are now void for illegality. Any of those planes outside Russian territory will never fly for Aeroflot again. Any of them inside Russian territory are now stolen property if they fly them.

 

[Hbk69]

At an individual level is there a difference between the desperation of someone defending his home against tanks with a petrol bomb and Putin with his finger on the nuclear trigger? Please tell me there is.

Putin will never have the chance to put his finger on the nuclear trigger, even if he wanted to, no state ever will. The military control what is fired. The only nuclear threat is one rogue nuclear bomb from a pathetic terrorist organisation, and even that is highly unlikely.

 

[Baloo]

Musk has said SpaceX could step in, there was a pretty big thread on twitter by some seemingly highly intelligent people saying how it wouldn't be that difficult (in th circumstances) to remove the Russian parts and retro fit new or excisiting parts.

It’s already outlasted it’s original lifespan. The issue I guess is that Russia and USA jointly “own” it?

 

[dom]

Depends what they stand to gain financially by invading Ukraine and potentially other countries too though to offset this. Very large silicon deposits in western Ukraine for instance which will be worth a pretty penny in the upcoming Information Age shift

Yeah but if they can’t spend it in the West, it’s worthless.
PS I haven’t a clue about silicon deposits!