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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Amongst the worrying talk about how a frustrated putin might use nukes, surely if he starts lashing out at people near to him they might end up thinking "fuck this, he's off his rocker". And instead of going along with plans that might have them and their families blown to oblivion, they'll start seeing an unlikely opportunity to topple him and rule Russia for themselves. I'd be surprised if he's got unerring loyalty. Agree that we need to let him think he's won mind, there has to be an off ramp offered. If we offer and he doesn't take it then its even more reason for those in his inner circle to take matters into their own hands. If he does take it then any ground he gains is disgraceful but at least we step back from the brink, he'll realise his army is shit and can't take any more land, and when he fucks off we hopefully remedy the situation
 
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Putin was wrong. We were ready' - Biden​

US President Joe Biden is expected to use his State of the Union address to say the west was ready for Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion.
"Throughout our history, we’ve learned this lesson – when dictators do not pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos. They keep moving. And, the costs and threats to America and the world keep rising," Biden will say, according to excerpts of his address released by the White House.
Biden will also say Putin eschewed efforts to prevent war.
"Putin’s war was premeditated and unprovoked. He rejected efforts at diplomacy. He thought the West and NATO wouldn’t respond. And, he thought he could divide us here at home.
"Putin was wrong. We were ready."
He says Russia rejected diplomacy, I thought there was another round of talks tomorrow? And how has NATO responded? Sorry but this thread is large and it's a very fluid situation so entirely possible I've missed some info.
 
He says Russia rejected diplomacy, I thought there was another round of talks tomorrow? And how has NATO responded? Sorry but this thread is large and it's a very fluid situation so entirely possible I've missed some info.
think they are on thursday, me guess is will try and surround kiev before talks so they ( russians) are calling the shots ( no pun intended )
 
He can't win, increasingly looking weak and mad by the hour-ostracised by the entire world and embarrassed his nation like never before. A disastrous military campaign and troops surrendering by all accounts. This can't go on much longer.
It's hopefully a wonderful conclusion to a beyond horrendous situation. Social media has actually done something good for once in this war and Zelensky needs every accolade on Earth for bringing the free world together to combat evil. You know for a fact if people didn't know or care the West's leaders would not intervene.

It's actually incredibly uplifting that this war was forced to be about morals and decency by the Internet, not what the elite can get financially from it by helping.
 
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I negotiated contracts in the pipeline industry. I have lost of stories about dealing in Russia.
I’ve only been once, was for work. And quite an experience

Young chunky arrives at the airport

Shaven headed youth at passport control “ ah English, which football team do you support?”
YC: “er Sunderland”
SHY “I support Millwall”
YC “yes, they are a good team too”

Takes passport and runs
 
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