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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Did you not see the wank video the other day? Some military commander saying how hard America are..blah blah blah..god already blessed America. Fuckjing sickening! I can't stand the USA BS a country born of rejects in the south..they are the biggest troublemakers on the planet! WAR WAR
If it’s the one I’m thinking of he was actually spot on for most of it. The interesting stat that’s going about is how many countries America has invaded in the last however many years. Pot and kettle arl ower
 

I think he probably grasped the enormity of the situation 5 months ago when he told the French, German, Italians & British at the Rome G20 meeting that US intelligence believed Putin was planning this invasion back then

Whereas the other guy thinks Putin is
"Savvy" "So smart" "Genius"

Trumplestiltskin is a complete and utter mess but let's be honest if Biden is the best the free world can come up with our problems run deep.
 
I want Russia stared down - or else this never f***ing ends.

I'm sick to death of the soaking wet bullshit of "ooooh we mustn't upset Russia". That's the attitude which brought all of this on in the first place.
I think the screw is being turned and eventually the Russian near Putin will crack.

Obviously, that does nothing for the poor people holed up in Ukraine but, sadly and no matter how brave they are, it isn't worth blowing up the whole world. I'd give it another couple of weeks.
 
Some of you will remember the Russian friend I have who described herself* as the “daughter of putin” from earlier in the thread. I bit the bullet earlier today and messaged her to say hi, and just check in. Not read it yet, but will be intrigued to see what she says now. Lives in Moscow still

*yes. But not the thread
Got a reply. The tone has definitely changed. Whilst not overtly critical of Putin, for fairly obvious reasons, it’s fair to say she gets it
 
So you want WW3 ?
Because thats what will happen it will go from Russia v Ukraine to Russia v the world.Our whole nation at risk.

I agree completely but where do you draw the line.

The Russians are changing the narrative today and startling to sow the seed that the West’s economic sanctions are as close to a military target. If we withhold their sovereign funds In sure Putin will almost certainly claim that’s an act of war.

What if they start to argue the defensive weapons supplies to Ukraine are an act of war do we just stop?

Lavrov has been demanding today that the US should remove nukes from Europe

There is a real risk here that Putin, Medvedev and Lavrov think they can keep threatening the West into backtracking and relenting. Again it’s the Nixon madman strategy in full flow. So do we just keep accepting and climb down and to what stage? Because I get the feeling Russia will keep pushing for an escalation/bullying the West until we have to make a call on the non military actions we are taking

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If we set a no fly zone up we may as well just say fuck it and launch a preemptive strike with nukes. It’ll save time and lives because it’s where we’ll end up anyway.

Whilst we are at it, throwing nukes around and that, we may as well take China out. Again, save us the bother later.

People need to calm down a bit like :eek:
What if the ukrainians put pressure on us and become more vocal?
 
It's a horrible situation. Would you advocate action if Russia invaded a NATO country?

I think a lot of people will increasingly also argue we should just let them have it. If you are not prepared to confront Russia at any point because Putin has nukes and might be going a bit mad then the Russians will bully the West and have complete free reign
 
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