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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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spitfire said:
To me there is a bigger picture to this. If we are to move forward in any meaningful way then whatever NATO style organisation emerges from this needs to include Russia too if we are to progress. A huge ask, I know, and fuck knows how we get there, but enough enough of this east/west shite.
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How do you invite a dictator state into NATO?
 
parm said:
but why now?
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It's not now, it's been used a few years now and it's becoming more widely known. I only noticed last week when a reporter was using "Keev" so I googled it and found out why. This is an article from 2019 for example.

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spitfire said:
To me there is a bigger picture to this. If we are to move forward in any meaningful way then whatever NATO style organisation emerges from this needs to include Russia too if we are to progress. A huge ask, I know, and fuck knows how we get there, but enough enough of this east/west shite.
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Free democracy/dictatorship, not east/west, once Russia has been a free democracy for many years, then we could end this shite.
 
BREAKING: The Interfax news agency reports that Russia's defence ministry says its nuclear forces have been "placed on enhanced combat duty" in line with President Putin's order.

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Dobblemackem said:
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It would help loads if people hoyed up links or at least told us the source (preferably reliable) of their posts like this rather than repeat something someone is possibly just spreading for shit and giggles on Tw@tter etc. I see this in 2 tweets doing a search, yet the next 2 say they're not over

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spitfire said:
To me there is a bigger picture to this. If we are to move forward in any meaningful way then whatever NATO style organisation emerges from this needs to include Russia too if we are to progress. A huge ask, I know, and fuck knows how we get there, but enough enough of this east/west shite.
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That would be ideal, but they need better leadership, they still seem stuck in nationalist bollocks, wanting to reform the USSR. So much so that they're willing to invade a country full of people who are basically the same as them. It would be like us invading Ireland because we once occupied it.
 
scott934 said:
That would be ideal, but they need better leadership, they still seem stuck in nationalist bollocks, wanting to reform the USSR. So much so that they're willing to invade a country full of people who are basically the same as them. It would be like us invading Ireland because we once occupied it.
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They need democracy
 
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