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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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tiptoad said:
It baffles me how Putin expects Ukraine to be governed once he's replaced the current government with his own puppets. Wrecking the capital city and killing a fair chunk of its residents isn't going to win many hearts and minds.

If his new President manages to avoid being assassinated they'll have to keep 40 million radged up Ukrainians in check who'll have plenty of weapons, it'll be like Afghanistan on steroids. Putin will need to keep his entire army there permanently to do this, so it's going to be a severe burden on an already crippled Russian economy and will cost countless Russian lives.

This isn't what he expected and I'd be looking for a quick way out of this shit-show without losing face if I was him, I hope for everyone's sake that one can be found.
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Exactly. We need a fuckin big off ramp for Putin. One that allows him to come down a bit before he decides, mah fuckit they have banned us from World Football I will fuck them over by destroying World (football).
0verlord44 said:
Jackie whites was 8 wasnt it?
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Which is where the rouble will be trading if it keeps collapsing at the current rate.
 
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Concordsafc said:
China want to rule financially, putin is in a corner that much now he’s got nothing left, the threat of nuclear attacks is his last line of defence in reality he knows Russia will be wiped out before he can do damage to the word leading his generals and higher ups wondering what to do.

The people of Russia don’t want to die due to putin and these war protests are getting bigger and bigger 5000 arrests so far and that’s a tiny percentage of who’s protesting.

He’s not even got total control of the majority of Ukraine to barter with.
Interest rates in Russia hit 20% what’s 20% of fuck all.
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Pleased to read the protests are getting bigger and bigger. He removal needs to come from Russia, whether that be from Angy citizens,military or a pissed off oligarch.

Brave people protesting right now.dread to think what is happening to the people arrested.
 
southstander said:
Exactly. We need a fuckin big off ramp for Putin. One that allows him to come down a bit before he decides, mah fuckit they have banned us from World Football I will fuck them over by destroying World (football).

Which is where the rouble will be trading if it keeps collapsing at the current rate.
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Problem is that he, along with the oligarchs, stole Russian people’s assets in 1990s and if he goes down they all could go down. They have an awful lot to lose.
 
Hopefully a ceasefire and peace talks can resume

Compromise isn’t a dirty word, both Russia and Ukraine and the wider world need to seek compromises

The politicians should make it clear these sanctions can be reversed and diplomacy can prevail

The world including Russia can return to normal
 
Wild Card said:
Pleased to read the protests are getting bigger and bigger. He removal needs to come from Russia, whether that be from Angy citizens,military or a pissed off oligarch.

Brave people protesting right now.dread to think what is happening to the people arrested.
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It’s a snowball effect though surely, the protesters will have friends and family, they will be concerned if they aren’t heard from, the police will have friends and family who become protesters also, imo. Volatile and scary times I think.
 
safcforever said:
If he starts killing his own people during these protests then the UN has to go in surely
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If I'm honest, I don't know what the obligations are.

I'm concerned that anyone going into Russia may cause an incident. He still has an large army, but his finances and hardware will be decimated, probably by a lot of tens. He may Panic, he may sow panic into his people,just like Ukraine have if he can spin it right.

I really hope someone internally takes him out asap, for everyones own good.
 
Concordsafc said:
China want to rule financially, putin is in a corner that much now he’s got nothing left, the threat of nuclear attacks is his last line of defence in reality he knows Russia will be wiped out before he can do damage to the word leading his generals and higher ups wondering what to do.

The people of Russia don’t want to die due to putin and these war protests are getting bigger and bigger 5000 arrests so far and that’s a tiny percentage of who’s protesting.

He’s not even got total control of the majority of Ukraine to barter with.
Interest rates in Russia hit 20% what’s 20% of fuck all.
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6000 nuclear warheads suggest he could do an awful lot of damage before Russia is wiped out, only just before admittedly.
I don’t think he would but the threat is certainly there.
 
citybythesea said:
Hopefully a ceasefire and peace talks can resume

Compromise isn’t a dirty word, both Russia and Ukraine and the wider world need to seek compromises

The politicians should make it clear these sanctions can be reversed and diplomacy can prevail

The world including Russia can return to normal
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I don’t think we can compromise with someone who has threatened nuclear war within the space of 4 days, the west need to stand strong on this one.
 
Anyone else’s thinking theses peace talks will result into Ukrainian deaths or capture.
Scorer said:
6000 nuclear warheads suggest he could do an awful lot of damage before Russia is wiped out, only just before admittedly.
I don’t think he would but the threat is certainly there.
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I meant destroy not damage sorry, he fires one one more powerful one comes back. Many of putins are from the Cold War era they won’t even recognise the roads on the sat nav.
 
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den said:
I don’t think we can compromise with someone who has threatened nuclear war within the space of 4 days, the west need to stand strong on this one.
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If this does end up in a larger scale war. Russia need have all their nuclear arsenal decommissioned and banned from nuclear power after it is over.
 
citybythesea said:
Hopefully a ceasefire and peace talks can resume

Compromise isn’t a dirty word, both Russia and Ukraine and the wider world need to seek compromises

The politicians should make it clear these sanctions can be reversed and diplomacy can prevail

The world including Russia can return to normal
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They were so far apart last time they will be far apart again. Probably pointless talks
 
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