Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[Shandy drinker]

What sort of a pay load has she got?

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[Concordsafc]

Scary fuckers. I had read reports that they had their arses handed to them by the Ukrainians and fucked off home. Obviously not.

Love a scrap them fuckas

200 or so of them did this is another lot time to send them home, can be as big and scary as they want doesn’t win battles they are fighting an enemy who’s already accepted death. Good luck to them I say.

 

[Helvellyn]

I was 10 in 1962 & lived through and remember very well the Cuban Missile Crisis. There was no Hot Line between Washington & Moscow those days and for a week everyone both young and old was just waiting for the air raid warning to go. For us kids it was a bit of an unknown but for our parents who had lived through a war and had been under attack the prospect was very real. As kids we could see it in their eyes the unthinkable had happened to them. This is nothing like that.

Putin has suffered a military humiliation he is surrounded by NATO countries who because of him are already on alert. He must be thinking "Shit - what happens if they think that the Russia is so militarily inept it would be worth giving it a go right now and they start heading for Moscow ?"

Under such circumstances he has no alterative other than to say "Remember we have nuclear weapons" because from the point of view of a conventional confrontation with NATO he has just demonstrated that Russia hasn't the ablility to put up much of a fight despite all of its hardware. He's issuing the threat because he knows Russia is vulnerable. The Russian Military will be furious with him and of course he will try to blame them.

I should think that his days as Russian president are now numbered.

Absolutely. I was speculating in the pub last night that on the available evidence it is anything but inconceivable that the Western allies would be emboldened to take Russia head-on; I think your analysis about Putin's dawning realisation & desperation is sage.

My view as I wrote earlier on this thread is Putin will be overthrown by his own, and a conclusion I drew was he will hang or pull the trigger on himself. Quite possibly (and scarily) if & when the Russian military refuse to discharge Nuclear weapons in his name.

 

[Botchie]

The Vulcan made more noise than our lass.
No, it’s true.

Even when she's got a drink in her?

 

[luvulongtime]

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Jesus christ, are these those thermobaric rockets that have been seen making their way into Ukraine?

classic russian tactics get your enemy in one place then bring up the heavy artillery

 

[southstander]

Our nuclear subs used to check if the WS was broadcasting and if was down they can assume London has been hit and can take independent action to fire their nukes.

I once did a job on the standby generator control system for Broadcasting House and saw John Peel in the The bloke at the Beeb I was working with told me this was why the standby generator was so critical.

 

[Lord Alfred]

It's to give me plenty of time to get in the bunker before our lass.

If it ever came to that I'd want to be in the epicentre and vapourised rather than survive and face the horrible aftermath.

 

[Shandy drinker]

Absolutely. I was speculating in the pub last night that on the available evidence it is anything but inconceivable that the Western allies would be emboldened to take Russia head-on; I think your analysis about Putin's dawning realisation & desperation is sage.

My view as I wrote earlier on this thread is Putin will be overthrown by his own, and a conclusion I drew was he will hang or pull the trigger on himself. Quite possibly (and scarily) if & when the Russian military refuse to discharge Nuclear weapons in his name.

Agree
Military coup

 

[Lankester Merrin]

Don’t forget the violinist. I bet she was not shagging Bozo because she fancied him. Allegedly.

It goes way back to George Osborne partying on Derepskia's yacht 14 years ago

Never underestimate how much class and wealth matters to Osborne, Cameron, Rees-Mogg and Boris. They find it much easier to get on with super rich Russian oligarchs than they do with ordinary people. They feel at home with them, share similar schools and upbringing

The British upper classes have long got on in life by doing each other favours. The Russian oligarchs simply latched on to that. Did favours, and then in time called in the debt. They ended up owning the upper echelons of Tory politics, banking, news. Boris still doesn't get that he did wrong, nor does his clique. That is how the rich elite have always got by, not by hard work and talent but by doing mates favours for money.

How on earth no-one spotted that we had a PM called Boris who was remarkably friendly with Russians without suspecting something was up?

 

[West_Winger]

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[Julio_Schwarz]

classic russian tactics get your enemy in one place then bring up the heavy artillery

Also would be good timing for a display of firepower before "peace" negotiations. I hope the Ukrainian lads are well under cover.

 

[Mercia Blackcat]

I was 7 and I remember having nightmares about it. And I remember Russian tanks rolling into Czechoslovakia in 1968 which was scarier because I was old enough to understand the consequences.

Not long after that Czechoslovakia played the Soviets at ice hockey in the Olympics in neutral Sweden. With the crowd roaring them on the Czechs beat them. I knew then I would rarely, if ever again, watch such an exiting sports event.

 

[SAFC7391]

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[Shandy drinker]

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Canny set of flaps

 

[Lankester Merrin]

yes apparently the Russians had built up a 600bn$ war chest in the event of sanctions.

But he didn't bargain on the nuclear button (.pun intended ) of CB reserves freeze

most if it now frozen

Unable to trade due to SWIFT

- Unable to liquidate it's assets due to freeze

Buggered

If other jurisdictions follow suit over the next 48 hours by Wednesday people will be wiping their arses with roubles because they will be worth less than toilet paper

 

[Shandy drinker]

It goes way back to George Osborne partying on Derepskia's yacht 14 years ago

Never underestimate how much class and wealth matters to Osborne, Cameron, Rees-Mogg and Boris. They find it much easier to get on with super rich Russian oligarchs than they do with ordinary people. They feel at home with them, share similar schools and upbringing

The British upper classes have long got on in life by doing each other favours. The Russian oligarchs simply latched on to that. Did favours, and then in time called in the debt. They ended up owning the upper echelons of Tory politics, banking, news. Boris still doesn't get that he did wrong, nor does his clique. That is how the rich elite have always got by, not by hard work and talent but by doing mates favours for money.

How on earth no-one spotted that we had a PM called Boris who was remarkably friendly with Russians without suspecting something was up?

Toffs are always the traitors

 

[SAFC7391]

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[safcforever]

@safcforever ey up you got a doppleganger?

It’s flattering. Only problem is some posters call me out on stuff I’ve never said

 

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[Lord Potts]

Absolutely. I was speculating in the pub last night that on the available evidence it is anything but inconceivable that the Western allies would be emboldened to take Russia head-on; I think your analysis about Putin's dawning realisation & desperation is sage.

My view as I wrote earlier on this thread is Putin will be overthrown by his own, and a conclusion I drew was he will hang or pull the trigger on himself. Quite possibly (and scarily) if & when the Russian military refuse to discharge Nuclear weapons in his name.

And if Russia really does have a Mafia not unlike the original they will conclude very quickly that "Putin aint no good for business"