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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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I think people are being optimistic if they think Putin launched a full scale invasion just to call the whole thing off after 4 days with nothing gained.

I get the impression they will go all out tonight to capture Kyiv.
I think they may be actively considering what happens if they "go all out" and capture Kiev - and may be asking themselves if they honestly have the resources in-theater to do it given how badly they've fared thus far.

They thought they had a clearly winning hand. The fact that they're even considering peace talks 3 days in shows that they have a rather different understanding of their hand than originally.

At this point, any Russian "victory" is Pyrrhic. They can't "win" without crippling their own nation.
 
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Think this is true. Might explain the 4 weeks camping out on the border. Guessing no phones allowed etc.
At very least I think the conscripts thought they'd be welcomed or at least accepted. Remember many of these lads will be as thick as whale spunk.
Worrying mind as would mean Putin is holding back on sending his top troops at this time. Could he have sent the conscripts and been sat back counting gun smoke. Would not put it past him.
 
This is an excellent development. Another unintended consequence of Putin’s actions.

Lukashenko should be nervous too. I’m sure his population are watching events in Ukraine and taking notes. His big friend is not proving quite as all powerful as they thought and if Putin goes Lukashenko will be next.

I really don’t believe there are many senior military staff anywhere in the world that would wish to be the first to launch a nuclear weapon. Those officers sitting with Putin will know the truth of the situation, they know they invaded another country and that NATO isn’t about to nuke Russia. They know it’s not going as well as they hoped and they know that launching nuclear missiles will destroy their country as well as others and millions of people will die.
They know the rest of the world is watching and judging their actions.

Lukashenko all in with Putin.

Putin falls we could see a Mussolini style execution of Lukashenko. 🍿
 
Yep. One of most well armed in Europe.

They'll be profiting from this. I doubt very much that Russia will stay in Syria after this.

2nd largest military in NATO after USA.
They could also capitalise and Anex some territories for themselves too. Like you say Syria and also Northern Iraq.
 
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