Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[Concordsafc]

I’d have no choice in the matter if all men were forced to go. I wouldn’t want to go though, no.

So you would rather send others ? Think your a little off.

I’ve family still serving and I’ve served my cousin is early 30s in the paras and will be sent over if any war he is prepared my nephew is 20 also in the forces and would be willing to go over in a heartbeat.

Don’ suggest war when you have not seen it or witnessed it first hand if you are not willing to fight.

No disrespect to you but you would be better off home as would sound a bit of a coward.

 

[samsafc]

if you say so, but it’s very easy to say to say send others to fight when you are not prepared to do so yourself

Oh and if being the son of a British soldier whose war came to an abrupt end during the Anzio landings in January 1944 makes me a self centred **** so be it

My point is to nip this in the bud now to save the lives of many. It will also stop the advancement closer to our own back yard.
Me not been in the military has nothing to do with it. I suppose you believe no one can comment on politics if they’re not a politician, or football if they’re not a footballer.

 

[Wild Card]

Putin could be finished pretty quickly if the rest of the world wanted to. The loses required to do it though would be huge.

Agreed but I think it needs to come from within.

We need to make him look weak and or for him to be too toxic for Russia. We need them to make the decision peacefully or not.

If the west take him out they may just replace him with someone equally as angry.

 

[Concordsafc]

My point is to nip this in the bud now to save the lives of many. It will also stop the advancement closer to our own back yard.
Me not been in the military has nothing to do with it. I suppose you believe no one can comment on politics if they’re not a politician, or football if they’re not a footballer.

My point is your willing to risk the lives of others to save your own sound like you would make a good politician to be honest

 

[samsafc]

So you would rather send others ? Think your a little off.

I’ve family still serving and I’ve served my cousin is early 30s in the paras and will be sent over if any war he is prepared my nephew is 20 also in the forces and would be willing to go over in a heartbeat.

Don’ suggest war when you have not seen it or witnessed it first hand if you are not willing to fight.

No disrespect to you but you would be better off home as would sound a bit of a coward.

Of course I would be better off at home in comparison to those with military training. As would you by the sounds of it.
It’s not about sending others. It’s about what I think would be the best strategic way for the west to defeat Putin. As in my opinion he is not going to stop at Ukraine.
What would you suggest to stop Putin without using military?

 

[bahtat]

bloody hell man, the age of the lad.

It’s always the case, remember when I used to make regular trips to Belfast during the troubles how young the British troops were

 

[Zimba]

We are going to be at war with Russia at some point. If the EU (I’m including the UK) and the US act in complete unison we can defeat Putin early.
Am I been hyperbole or do others think that this a whole European invasion by Putin? I believe he wants the soviet empire back and more.

Go to war against Russia when you've got no grounds to do so. Then you've just very likely gone to war with China aswell.

If Russia attacks us and we're just acting in defence then China might have two minds as Putin is disposable and a problem.

That's why.

 

[Concordsafc]

Of course I would be better off at home in comparison to those with military training. As would you by the sounds of it.
It’s not about sending others. It’s about what I think would be the best strategic way for the west to defeat Putin. As in my opinion he is not going to stop at Ukraine.
What would you suggest to stop Putin without using military?

I would like many others walk overseas instantly mate that’s the difference beinf told what to do by others is a job and an order is an order. This does not have to escalate to world war putin is in self distruct.

 

[elder]

Reliable but not very accurate.. spray a load of bullets but if they hit fuck all

7.62 round though, so when you're hit you stay f***ing hit. marvelous weapon. much better than the 5.56 shite we use

 

[den]

Hopefully when it’s all over and thousands of the Russian soldiers go home, they will tell there family and friends the truth.

 

[samsafc]

My point is your willing to risk the lives of others to save your own sound like you would make a good politician to be honest

To use trained people to protect the UK before the use of civilians is exactly correct imo. I have the utmost respect for all our armed forces as people and for their capabilities.

 

[Concordsafc]

To use trained people to protect the UK before the use of civilians is exactly correct imo. I have the utmost respect for all our armed forces as people and for their capabilities.

But you are wanting us to finish putin and attack that isn’t defending mate that’s throwing lambs to the slaughter.

You are risking opening wars in Belarus Finland Poland etc. Not to mention bombing attempts on mainland Europe and the United Kingdom.

 

[samsafc]

I would like many others walk overseas instantly mate that’s the difference beinf told what to do by others is a job and an order is an order. This does not have to escalate to world war putin is in self distruct.

As i said earlier my fears may not be confounded at all. I just do think he will continue to advance west after he seizes the Ukraine. Not immediately, but over time.
He is a power hungry old man, with less and less to lose.

 

[Deleted member 43869]

Hopefully when it’s all over and thousands of the Russian soldiers go home, they will tell there family and friends the truth.

They'll have been given clear instructions about exactly what to tell their families...

Barbaric Ukrainians
Brave Russians
Everything going to plan...

 

[Az*]

We are going to be at war with Russia at some point. If the EU (I’m including the UK) and the US act in complete unison we can defeat Putin early.
Am I been hyperbole or do others think that this a whole European invasion by Putin? I believe he wants the soviet empire back and more.

Well if this is the opening of their take over I would suggest they turn around and go back home. It’s not going to well is it?

They’ve looked amateurish on more than a few occasion. Kershon yesterday was an utter embarrassment.

 

[samsafc]

But you are wanting us to finish putin and attack that isn’t defending mate that’s throwing lambs to the slaughter

I get your point, I just think that stopping things at source is better than letting things develop. I could be making too many similarities with WW2 but it’s just my opinion. Which yes, is very easy to have when I’m not on the front line.

 

[Scotty 1978]

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Unbelievable that “reet lads we’ve seen them off back to work”

 

[Seaham_FTM]

I’m glued to the news me. This is truly awful and I hope to god some agreement is reached soon.
Watching these reports of Ukrainians getting their families out and then taking up arms to defend their country against certain defeat off a superpower bunch of arseholes really does deserve absolute respect and support.

 

[Wild Card]

Putin could be finished pretty quickly if the rest of the world wanted to. The loses required to do it though would be huge.

I guess your point still stands though,the west could collectively pressure Russia sowing discontent and certain countries need to do more.

Italian luxury good still been sold to their wealthy people, or postponing a pipeline that is not yet active when we all know it will probably come active on the same date intended i hardly a collective non lethal blitzkrieg.

 

[chrismisterx]

So you would rather send others ? Think your a little off.

I’ve family still serving and I’ve served my cousin is early 30s in the paras and will be sent over if any war he is prepared my nephew is 20 also in the forces and would be willing to go over in a heartbeat.

Don’ suggest war when you have not seen it or witnessed it first hand if you are not willing to fight.

No disrespect to you but you would be better off home as would sound a bit of a coward.

Been reading your posts the last few days and think you have been a cracking poster, with some insightful stuff, but the bit in bold is a little unfair to be honest.

Being for us to intervene is a big difference to saying I would go and across and fight, its super easy to say it on a message board, the poster was honest to admit he would be scared and wouldn't want to fight, doesn't make him a coward, just makes him normal, I think most squaddies get scared, just the training kicks it and as you will know from serving, when the shit hits the fan, your not fighting for queen or country, your fighting at that moment for your mates around you and that trumps being scared.

All my mates, some of my family served, i got knocked back but signed up for the TA ( medical less stringent in the TA it seems ) So i cant talk from real experience as never really served, but I know from my talks with my mates who did serve in warzones some of the thought processes, mind they were all different when they came back and didn't really like talking to me a civ as opposed to talking amongst people who really knew, as they had been there.