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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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chrismisterx said:
My god its like a Russian bot account,

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect.

You missed the point, We had no choice due to the article 5 treaty in NATO but to help the USA in Afghanistan, all NATO members helped in one way or another, it was an act after a NATO member was attacked. Its simple really.

Just because we were working with Russia isnt the issue, we have condemned his attack, So what if we traded with them in the past, its what is happening now thats important, Russia has broken the treaty to safe guard Ukraine's borders, not us, not the USA , just Russia. Russia lied about working on diplomacy while moving troops into place to attack on many fronts, Putin was always going to attack no matter what, we can see that clearly now.

Do you know our current policy with regards safe guarding Ukraine citizens?

You do understand how stupid your sounding, Russia was trading, investing and working with most of the developed world, and it was encouraged to make sure we didn't slip back to another cold war, but Putin has invaded another country, its how we react how thats important and unlike Germany, Italy and a few others we have condemned it and started the ball rolling with sanctions, I hope we ramp the sanctions up as we go.

But you know this and are posting a load of crap to deflect from the issue.

Russia has attacked an European country for no other reason to split it up, cause a change in that countries government and to stop the free will of that country in have closer ties to NATO and the EU.
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I agree with your perspective on why Russia is invading the Ukraine. I've never once defended Russia, and actually condemened them multiple times, so I'm a pretty shit Bot

You'll find very few people who were victims of the invasion in the ME who agree with your perspectives on that war though. Saying we had no choice but to invade is f***ing absurd. We're entirely responsible for the enormous level of investment and cost in lives that resulted from our degree of commitment.

To them, a country who had no buisness doing so invaded their own.

Wars look very similar the world over if you're not the aggressor.

I have no idea what the policy is with Ukrainian refugees, do you? I doubt it will be any different, and I don't think it should be either.
 
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Peaknutt said:
Good stuff, make it as costly for the Russians as possible. If enough body bags come back to Moscow (like with the Soviets in Afghanistan) then Putin has a problem on his hands.

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This is Putins problem. The West has a pretty much limitless pot to fund Ukraine. And also some small but deadly technologies like anti-tank, anti-ship, anti-air missiles that could cause huge damage.

As long as they can keep a supply route open via Poland, and I doubt Russia will conduct any operations right on the border, then the West could fund an endless proxy war.

All whilst Putins economy tanks and he finds it harder to fund himself.

The US alone will fund Ukraine with whatever as it’s one of the few bi-partisan issues. A lot of senior Republicans hate Russia
 
Bulwell said:
Reminds me of my French ex telling me she was going back to France with our 3yo daughter and wouldn't even listen to my point of view or compromise. When I told her I would get legal advice she told me if I did that I would never see her again. It was at that point I knew I had to get legal advice.

Long story short my ex lives in France but my daughter lives with me. Careful what you wish for Russia.
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Get in there mate
 
chrismisterx said:
My god its like a Russian bot account,

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect.

You missed the point, We had no choice due to the article 5 treaty in NATO but to help the USA in Afghanistan, all NATO members helped in one way or another, it was an act after a NATO member was attacked. Its simple really.

Just because we were working with Russia isnt the issue, we have condemned his attack, So what if we traded with them in the past, its what is happening now thats important, Russia has broken the treaty to safe guard Ukraine's borders, not us, not the USA , just Russia. Russia lied about working on diplomacy while moving troops into place to attack on many fronts, Putin was always going to attack no matter what, we can see that clearly now.

Do you know our current policy with regards safe guarding Ukraine citizens?

You do understand how stupid your sounding, Russia was trading, investing and working with most of the developed world, and it was encouraged to make sure we didn't slip back to another cold war, but Putin has invaded another country, its how we react how thats important and unlike Germany, Italy and a few others we have condemned it and started the ball rolling with sanctions, I hope we ramp the sanctions up as we go.

But you know this and are posting a load of crap to deflect from the issue.

Russia has attacked an European country for no other reason to split it up, cause a change in that countries government and to stop the free will of that country in have closer ties to NATO and the EU.
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We're the Goodies remember

This is why I post what I do mate. Because I'm interested in how my country *actually* treats its people and the people it claims to care for, not the feel good narratives it spins while quietly washing its hands off the consequences of its actions
 
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HoxtonMackem said:
Anyone else sick to death of the word sanctions?

Quickly becoming the buzzword of 2022.

Wish people would stop muttering on about them, we'll not know if successful/ or see the (hopeful) impact of them for months, possibly years.

Not going to make a jot of difference in saving Ukraine.
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They do work, or have historically but take around a decade to really bite.
 
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