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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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SAFC7391 said:
Been watching them, about 10 minutes ago you could definitely hear some bangs going off and what sounded like plane’s or drones above. Must be awful.
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This sort of report is what i like to see. They’re fighting hard and hopefully makes Russia think twice about moving any further.
I just have a fear that if Ukraine is easier than expected he might just keep going
 
safcforever said:
This sort of report is what i like to see. They’re fighting hard and hopefully makes Russia think twice about moving any further.
I just have a fear that if Ukraine is easier than expected he might just keep going
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They've only deployed 20% of their forces lol. Approx 30k in Ukraine, there was about 200k on both borders.

I'd say they're just testing the waters. The main unit is expected to reach Kyiv tonight (our time) and the more resistance they find the more resources they'll throw at it
 
The bit I don’t get, so humour me, is how he holds it. He can put a puppet in place, but they have had years of democracy (relatively), and the ill feeling must be through the roof.

Do they seriously have the troop numbers to hold it for years?
 
chunkylover53 said:
The bit I don’t get, so humour me, is how he holds it. He can put a puppet in place, but they have had years of democracy (relatively), and the ill feeling must be through the roof.

Do they seriously have the troop numbers to hold it for years?
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Once they've dismembered the Ukrainian military and killed, exiled, or jailed all the prominent opponents? Sure, especially since they'll have a fair number of willing Quislings.
 
chunkylover53 said:
The bit I don’t get, so humour me, is how he holds it. He can put a puppet in place, but they have had years of democracy (relatively), and the ill feeling must be through the roof.

Do they seriously have the troop numbers to hold it for years?
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I posted earlier in the thread about this.

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This person was on LBC this afternoon. Said that general consensus among experts is that to keep a population the size of Ukraine under control, they’d need an occupation force of 600k stationed there.
 
chunkylover53 said:
The bit I don’t get, so humour me, is how he holds it. He can put a puppet in place, but they have had years of democracy (relatively), and the ill feeling must be through the roof.

Do they seriously have the troop numbers to hold it for years?
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The problem is Putin has tons of militias and puppets in place who would come if asked

Belarus, Republic of Donestk, Republic of Luhansk, Chechnya, South Ossetia, Kazakhstan are all Putin installed puppets.

Any pro-Ukrainian rebellion would just get squashed as happened in Georgia
 
Baloo said:
I posted earlier in the thread about this.

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This person was on LBC this afternoon. Said that general consensus among experts is that to keep a population the size of Ukraine under control, they’d need an occupation force of 600k stationed there.
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That’s 0.5% of the entire population of Russia. Including children, the elderly and the terminally pissed up
 
chunkylover53 said:
That’s a massive job tho. Maybe I’m naive. This isn’t Tajikistan, this is a country that’s relatively open now.
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Russians do massive jobs. I'm not sure Putin wants to keep the entire place as keeping all of it would be a huge pain. Plus, leaving a rump "Ukraine" plus a puppet state of the majority of the place would look a tiny smidge better, at least in his own propaganda. But what do I know?
 
coyneeee said:
The problem is Putin has tons of militias and puppets in place who would come if asked

Belarus, Republic of Donestk, Republic of Luhansk, Chechnya, South Ossetia, Kazakhstan are all Putin installed puppets.

Any pro-Ukrainian rebellion would just get squashed as happened in Georgia
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True enough. I just don’t know if they can afford it. They have resources but they will be cutoff. And Russia isn’t that wealthy.
 
chunkylover53 said:
The bit I don’t get, so humour me, is how he holds it. He can put a puppet in place, but they have had years of democracy (relatively), and the ill feeling must be through the roof.

Do they seriously have the troop numbers to hold it for years?
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I struggle with that - I cannot see what his endgame is as I cannot see him putting the troops in to hold it long term and if he just pulls out it will go back fairly quickly. Unless he is simply making a point (somewhat heavy handedly) that he won't tolerate NATO on his doorstep - seems to be a fairly unhinged way of doing it.
 
chunkylover53 said:
True enough. I just don’t know if they can afford it. They have resources but they will be cutoff. And Russia isn’t that wealthy.
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It won't last forever. Chechnya will annihilate Russia once their leader kicks the bucket.

These people will make ISIS look like good neighbours when he's gone, I mean like he had his own Da assassinated (who was in charge at the time) so he could take charge, and the people want independence from Russia
 
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