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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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safcforever said:
I don’t want to come across like I’m deliberately trying to argue, but videos like that are used as propaganda all the time.

Pressuring an injured soldier into saying what you want to hear to receive treatment.
I get the point and the purpose of it but it can easily be used as propaganda for both sides.
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Propaganda from Ukraine who are currently being invaded aye? This sounds like the 2 sides to every story bollocks people come out with about all kinds these days
 

rudd said:
I completely agree, take anything with a pinch of salt in times of war.

There's others doing the rounds and they all look slightly suspicious. The one of the motorbike soldier is very similar. There's another that's being shared now that allegedly shows a Russian soldier face down saying that he was told they were coming over to Ukraine to evacuate people, not to fight. They're all believable, but at the same time are also quite easily set up or fake.
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Agree. It is actually in this day and age one of the tools of war.
 
SAFCOldie said:
These people don't actually hate each other, they may hate the regimes but they are the same peoples. it's crackers.
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Most wars are like this to be fair. We never really hate anyone. We just have different beliefs and different goals.

The scariest part about this one is we don’t see the end. Like we don’t know what he really wants.
We’ve never seen anything like this in our lifetime.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Sanctions appear to be the way to go, maybe need to get more severe. Give him some credit he does have aircraft near by and has deployed more troops into Germany tonight
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I’m sure the sanctions will tighten. But they can’t be enforced the US alone.

And the challenge is that you tighten too far and they potentially become counter productive. You back into a corner and Putin thinks he has nowt to lose and then does something really stupid. Like nuclear
 
Snappy said:
Unimaginable the fear those trapped in the fighting must be going through. Innocent people, children ffs. Scared that they are going to die. Wanting to just live their life with their family in peace. Mothers and father's leaving their little one's potentially for the last time. Gut wrenching to watch never mind have to do.

I despair at the human race sometimes. Cruel, callous bastards. I fear what we will wake up to tomorrow morning in the news. Dark days indeed.
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Some twat on QT worried about rising costs to him in the UK. Not arsed about innocent people dying, me, me, me greed instead
 
chunkylover53 said:
I’m sure the sanctions will tighten. But they can’t be enforced the US alone.

And the challenge is that you tighten too far and they potentially become counter productive. You back into a corner and Putin thinks he has nowt to lose and then does something really stupid. Like nuclear
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That's one of the things with sanctions: they can be rolled back if he behaves better.

Can't un-kill the people being killed right now, though.
 
SAFCOldie said:
These people don't actually hate each other, they may hate the regimes but they are the same peoples. it's crackers.
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Same as people on here and elsewhere talking about "Russia" doing this or that. Or cheering the deaths of soldiers. No, Putin, the politicians, the oligarchy etc. are forcing the rest of them into this war. None of us normal folk from Britain, Russia, or anywhere shouldnt hate each other. This war isn't going to benefit any of us.

1700 brave anti-war protesters arrested tonight in Russia, people who could well face death now, should demonstrate everything we need to know.
 
Super Mario said:
Propaganda from Ukraine who are currently being invaded aye? This sounds like the 2 sides to every story bollocks people come out with about all kinds these days
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Not what I’m saying but thanks anyway.

The political sides use everything and anything in war.

I’ll try putting it another way. The world are basically telling Ukraine they’re fighting this alone, we can all agree on that. Forget the sanctions and stuff, Ukraine are the only ones defending themselves.

So is it in Ukraine’s best interests to fire up a storm regarding casualties and destruction, to then get public pressure on their individual leaders to send military help?
So would videos like this help?

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m saying we will see tons and tons of these videos to be used as tools.
Hair Flick said:
Against the Geneva Convention, isn’t it?
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Not helping him with medical treatment would be yes.
 
safcforever said:
Not what I’m saying but thanks anyway.

The political sides use everything and anything in war.

I’ll try putting it another way. The world are basically telling Ukraine they’re fighting this alone, we can all agree on that. Forget the sanctions and stuff, Ukraine are the only ones defending themselves.

So is it in Ukraine’s best interests to fire up a storm regarding casualties and destruction, to then get public pressure on their individual leaders to send military help?
So would videos like this help?

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m saying we will see tons and tons of these videos to be used as tools.

Not helping him with medical treatment would be yes.
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There's a big difference between an invading force using false flags etc and a video of a Russian soldier being told to explain why he's there. I know what you're saying but it's much more sensible to assume the Russians have been told this is why they are there especially given the shite Putin came out with yesterday that basically stated the same thing.
 
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