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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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englishman abroad said:
The corruption stems from Russian interference in Ukraine, Guillani, Manafort and all that
As you rightly say its the innocent that will die,
Do you believe Ukraine has a right to self determination or is Putin invasion justified
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Ah mate, that’s a good question, no invasion is justified anywhere in my opinion. We’re all free folk who should be able to roam where we please, worship who we want, etc. it’s all about respecting differences in beliefs and cultures.

But to answer in the context of what’s actually happened…I’m not surprised he’s invaded, I can see where he’s coming from, Russo has been backed into a corner, Ukraine can be snidey little fuckers who will wind him up until he snaps….they’re both as bad as each other in some regards.

Let them find a big bit of wasteland in Siberia and fight it out there…leave everyone else out of it. Think that’s where nato are spot on, let them fight it out themselves to start with and watch how it pans out. This ain’t a time for knee jerk reactions (even though they’ve had years of watching these two countries fighting each other)
 
The other Red Team might take this opportunity to invade Taiwan. Now that would really cause unrest globally. Not that this hasn't already.

Isn't deling with covid enough Mr Putin? These politicians ffs wankers
 
Cow said:
Putin apologists…an interesting one. Given that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and aren’t any strangers to playing games themselves along with the fact that western governments have played games for decades in just the same way Putin has it’s not wonder some people can see both sides.

Don’t believe everything you read in the western press.

The one and only concern for me at this time is keeping innocent civilians, Ukrainians and Russians, out of this and hope to god there is as few casualties/deaths as possible. Arseholes in power will always play their games….keep us minions out of it please.
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Lots of the former Eastern Bloc are corrupt, and it's a legacy of years of being under soviet control. It's built into their DNA still. However, Ukraine was trying to move away from that, and is an independent nation. There is no excusing this at all.
 
Something I keep thinking of is how much moral authority we lost by invading Iraq.

It doesn't justify Putin's actions in any way, shape or form, but he can point to Iraq and say everything we criticise him for now we ourselves did in Iraq.
 
englishman abroad said:
The corruption stems from Russian interference in Ukraine, Guillani, Manafort and all that
As you rightly say its the innocent that will die,
Do you believe Ukraine has a right to self determination or is Putin invasion justified
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Bannon and Trump were willing to let a nato member nation be taken over by Putin, Johnson had to point out it was like allowing the Nazis into the sudetenland.
 
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