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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Osklen said:
I appreciate that I was referring the comment that Vlad considers the Ukraine joining Nato to be a threat as that would put Nato on his doorstep. To counter this he has invaded the Ukraine which moves his border further west on to Nato's doorstep

My point is that it’s not really an argument as other countries already bordered Russia the only difference is that Ukraine aren’t yet part of NATO. Concern is they don’t just stop in Ukraine - that’s not to take away from the fact that it’s horrendous that they are invading Ukraine.
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Apologies. Didn’t see that.
 

Osklen said:
I appreciate that I was referring the comment that Vlad considers the Ukraine joining Nato to be a threat as that would put Nato on his doorstep. To counter this he has invaded the Ukraine which moves his border further west on to Nato's doorstep

My point is that it’s not really an argument as other countries already bordered Russia the only difference is that Ukraine aren’t yet part of NATO. Concern is they don’t just stop in Ukraine - that’s not to take away from the fact that it’s horrendous that they are invading Ukraine.
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I fear that Moldova might well be on Putin's hit list.
 
Traumtor said:
Trumpelstiltskin called Putin a savvy genius when talking about the recognition and then invasion of the disputed Oblasts. 75 million nutcases voted for that loser, so it's safe to assume a decent number of Americans are loving this, anything that makes Biden look weak make them orgasm uncontrollably.
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Not safe to say, as most of my partners extended family are based in the US deep south and voted for Trump...I assure you none of them are loving this, so with a count of seventeen, I trump your sweeping generalization.
 
Cow said:
Putin apologists…an interesting one. Given that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and aren’t any strangers to playing games themselves along with the fact that western governments have played games for decades in just the same way Putin has it’s not wonder some people can see both sides.

Don’t believe everything you read in the western press.

The one and only concern for me at this time is keeping innocent civilians, Ukrainians and Russians, out of this and hope to god there is as few casualties/deaths as possible. Arseholes in power will always play their games….keep us minions out of it please.
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The corruption stems from Russian interference in Ukraine, Guillani, Manafort and all that
As you rightly say its the innocent that will die,
Do you believe Ukraine has a right to self determination or is Putin invasion justified
 
Lonz said:
I think a lot of people can actually see Putin’s side and why he’s done it. That doesn’t mean it’s right.
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No, agree, it doesn’t mean it’s right, there’s lots of things which we normal folk don’t seem right but politicians think is perfectly normal…..that’s the fucked up world we live in
 
Frijj said:
I see absolutely no reason why NATO collectively should not be helping defend Ukraine.

I appreciate this is invoking Godwin’s law but considering Putin is the second man since Hitler to wage war against a fellow European nation I think the comparison is just - letting him get away with this is just Appeasement V2.

We cannot stand idly by and let Ukraine fall. If we do, China will see there’s absolutely nothing stopping them taking Taiwan. Putin will set his sights on another country after Ukraine.
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when the nukes were removed from Ukraine we agreed with the US to look after the Ukraine iirc, I think Russia also agreed to look after Ukraine's borders, damn disgrace we let this happen.
 
Putin on Sky News: trying to talk the West’s language in terms of saying he’s doing it to provide stability for businesses in Ukraine.

Saying he doesn’t want to damage the world economy that Russia a part of.

Believe that at your own cost.
 
Suomifinland said:
I see this f***ing traitor still can't f***ing condemn it. What was brexit again?

Oh yes. Ability to self determine & choose your own destiny.

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"Well obviously he shouldn't have killed his ex girlfriend who he hadn't seen in 20 years but she did smile at another man"
 
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