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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Frijj said:
I see absolutely no reason why NATO collectively should not be helping defend Ukraine.

I appreciate this is invoking Godwin’s law but considering Putin is the second man since Hitler to wage war against a fellow European nation I think the comparison is just - letting him get away with this is just Appeasement V2.

We cannot stand idly by and let Ukraine fall. If we do, China will see there’s absolutely nothing stopping them taking Taiwan. Putin will set his sights on another country after Ukraine.
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Do you mean military assistance?
Boots on the ground?
 
Bulwell said:
Trump is a narcissistic moron. He was in awe and a sycophant of Putin because he would have loved to have similar power to him in the USA.

Saying it wouldn't have happened with him in charge is like Simon Grayson saying he would be challenging Man City and Liverpool if he hadn't been sacked.
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Agreed mate. We can all be thankful he is not currently in the white house at this time.
 
SAFC Wilks said:
Aw I like that. Statements but no action.

Do we just keep putting statements out when he invades a new country?
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I get what you're saying. But I think the biggest lesson from this is to be part of a defensive pact to stop yourself from being harassed - The other ex-USSR nations figured that, even Taiwan figured that out.
 
Scotty said:
well someone of a higher pay grade needs to decide where the red line is

is Ukraine worth nuclear war
is Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia worth nuclear war
is it the rest of Eastern Europe

etc, etc
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I don’t know where it is but there has to be a red line. I also don’t believe it would necessarily invoke a nuclear war
 
'Consequences you have never seen before in your history'.

This is why there will be no military action. Having seen his actions in the last 24 hours we can't afford to call his bluff.
 
SAFC Wilks said:
Aw I like that. Statements but no action.

Do we just keep putting statements out when he invades a new country?
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Firstly we don’t know if he will invade another country, there’s no reason why he would. Secondly, if nato say nothing then it’s not particularly a great sign. This way, it’s them saving face, accepting the reality that Ukraine is going back to Russia and it also saves the rest of the woods being drawn into a war where there really is no winners…nuclear. You do understand that don’t you? Any involvement or escalation from the west and it’s highly likely Russia will escalate as well.
 
MonkeyLove said:
:lol: The West May as well just pack up and go home then. If they will never confront him because of the nuke issue (And it is a huge issue) they we may as well just accept our Western role as submissive and let him retake the Baltic’s and anything else he fancies
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That is slightly different as they're NATO countries
 
MackemX said:
Haven't seen the buildup but this shows a bit more of aftermath as you see the turret in that pic at the end of this video. I hope it's OK given that it's blurred and I don't get a warning.

Tweet says "Ukrainian Army struck Russian forces in an area close to Kharkov. 1 tank and many armored vehicles were destroyed."

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Sky news have just shown a video of a Russian flag being raised in the same city.
 
Corbyn and his cabal are not happy with NATO's 'eastward expansion'
sedling said:
Apparently the UK is 'indicating disdain for Russian concerns'

From 'Stop The War' press release today :

...Instead, the British government has sent arms to Ukraine and deployed further troops to Eastern Europe, moves which serve no purpose other than inflaming tensions and indicating disdain for Russian concerns.

It has also declared that Ukraine has a “sovereign right” to join NATO, when no such right exists to join it or any other military alliance.

Britain needs to change its policy, and start working for peace, not confrontation.

Stop the War believes that Russia and Ukraine should reach a diplomatic settlement of the tensions between them, on the basis of the Minsk-2 agreement already signed by both states.

It believes NATO should call a halt to its eastward expansion and commit to a new security deal for Europe which meets the needs of all states and peoples.

We refute the idea that NATO is a defensive alliance, and believe its record in Afghanistan, Yugoslavia and Libya over the last generation, not to mention the US-British attack on Iraq, clearly proves otherwise.

We support all efforts to reach new arms control agreements in Europe and to move towards nuclear disarmament across the continent.

We urge the entire anti-war movement to unite on the basis of challenging the British government’s aggressive posturing and direct its campaigning to that end above all.

Jeremy Corbyn MP
Diane Abbott MP
John McDonnell MP
Richard Burgon MP
Ian Lavery MP
Beth Winter MP
Zarah Sultana MP
Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP
Apsana Begum MP
Mick Whitley MP
Tahir Ali MP
Claudia Webbe MP
Ian Mearns MP
Pauline Bryan House of Lords
Christine Blower House of Lords
Lord John Hendy QC

Mick Whelan, ASLEF General Secretary
Sarah Woolley, BFAWU General Secretary
Eddie Dempsey, RMT Assistant General Secretary
Daniel Kebede, NEU President
Gawain Little, NEU International Committee Chair


... and loads more 'celebs'
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Boris is a charlatan, but Christ it was better than voting these lot in.
 
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