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G Force said:
Isolated chants from a few? A few mates in the south and they didn’t hear anything like that
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They were isolated yes and all after their 2nd goal, im in row 36 in the middle of the stand and they were all behind me was loud enough for everyone around me and a few rows in front to turn around, happened 3 or 4 times before it changed to get out of our club
 

Hep said:
I'm not sure how I can be any clearer.

The owners are to blame for lots of things. Some of the fans are making it worse.

Or do you think the South stand was the best we can be yesterday?

Yes, fans arguing amongst themselves in the south stand, a couple squaring up to each other. Certainly not any better is it?
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Your'e not making anything clearer at all. You continue to refuse my questions about why you constantly side with millionaire scum like Charlie Methven and berated those of us who go to work for in reality peanuts and use that to pay for our season tickets etc.

All you seem to respond with is how the fans are making it worse apparently and rabbiting on about the South Stand.

I've asked what incidents fans are to blame for. You won't answer
I've asked why you defend the owners. You won't answer

As I've said I really don't what your game is but the way you are going on suggests their are ulterior motives behind your comments towards the Sunderland fanbase. The way you go on does beg the question about if you have connections with the ownership. The way you run down the fans constantly is very much Methven-esque.

You are pathetic.
 
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Be Here Now said:
Your'e not making anything clearer at all. You continue to refuse my questions about why you constantly side with millionaire scum like Charlie Methven and berated those of us who go to work for in reality peanuts and use that to pay for our season tickets etc.

All you seem to respond with is how the fans are making it worse apparently and rabbiting on about the South Stand.

I've asked what incidents fans are to blame for. You won't answer
I've asked why you defend the owners. You won't answer

As I've said I really don't what your game is but the way you are going on suggests their are ulterior motives behind your comments towards the Sunderland fanbase. The way you go on does beg the question about if you have connections with the ownership. The way you run down the fans constantly is very much Methven-esque.

You are pathetic.
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"I've asked what incidents fans are to blame for. You won't answer" - I've explained that the way we go on won't help the team. Booing and arguing between ourselves is far below what I'd expect of 'great' fans.

"I've asked why you defend the owners. You won't answer" - I've stated in several posts above that the owner are to blame, my point is we're making it even worse.

If you want to make a difference, make a positive one that might help. Boos and protests do nothing. It's just going on like spoilt kids.

A question for you. Do you think the support from the South Stand yesterday was as good as it could possibly be? Or will you answer saying but.. but.. but.. the performance on the pitch? Look, I get people are angry and emotional but try to find a way to make it better in spite of the owners. At the end of the day, most of the players are very young lads and they look completely devoid of confidence. Having the crowd fully behind them even if we're a goal down could make a massive difference.
 
Hep said:
"I've asked what incidents fans are to blame for. You won't answer" - I've explained that the way we go on won't help the team. Booing and arguing between ourselves is far below what I'd expect of 'great' fans.

"I've asked why you defend the owners. You won't answer" - I've stated in several posts above that the owner are to blame, my point is we're making it even worse.

If you want to make a difference, make a positive one that might help. Boos and protests do nothing. It's just going on like spoilt kids.

A question for you. Do you think the support from the South Stand yesterday was as good as it could possibly be? Or will you answer saying but.. but.. but.. the performance on the pitch? Look, I get people are angry and emotional but try to find a way to make it better in spite of the owners. At the end of the day, most of the players are very young lads and they look completely devoid of confidence. Having the crowd fully behind them even if we're a goal down could make a massive difference.
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There you go again trying to divert things onto the fans and rabbiting on about the South Stand.

"I've asked why you defend the owners. You won't answer" - I've stated in several posts above that the owner are to blame, my point is we're making it even worse." How are the fans making it worse? Which fans sit in the boardroom? Which fans oversee the financial side of the club? Which fans oversee the recruitment? Which fans are out the training ground? Absolutely none.

"I've explained that the way we go on won't help the team" The way the fans go on is by turning up in huge numbers week after week after week. I mean after what has gone on recently we are still taking around 4,500 to Wigan. Do you honestly believe the fans would bother travelling home and away if they wanted the team to fail.

Youre going on about fans arguing. Sorry but are the players on the field sitting watching while the game is in play watching a couple of fellas argue.

So again I will ask you name an actual specific incident that me or anyone else as a fan has contributed towards. An actual incident not some random shit about booing.

You constantly rabbit on about "booing". You go to any other ground in this country on any given Saturday and you listen to fans booing when their team has had a bad match or result or performance.

A question for me about the South Stand? I don't sit in the South Stand so I can't go on about what goes on in there. Do you honestly think me standing up and starting songs would have improved our defending yesterday.

Youre on about young players looking devoid of confidence. Fair enough. But they also look devoid of fitness. How is that down to the fans in the stand? That is down to piss poor decisions on behalf of the coaching staff. Not me sitting at the back of the stand.

As I've said there really is something not quite right with your opinions of Sunderland fans. You've never once denied my claims you have some kind of connection to the ownership.

And as I've said you are totally pathetic. I highly doubt you would dare criticise the fans face to face the way you do on here.
 
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one armed boxer said:
There’s a lot of hate directed towards methven and rightly so, but is Stewart Donald getting off lightly considering he owns the higher percentage??

Genuine question as I’ve not been to many matches lately.
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Donald is being the invisible man (a rare right decision for him); Methven isn't.
 
Be Here Now said:
There you go again trying to divert things onto the fans and rabbiting on about the South Stand.

"I've asked why you defend the owners. You won't answer" - I've stated in several posts above that the owner are to blame, my point is we're making it even worse." How are the fans making it worse? Which fans sit in the boardroom? Which fans oversee the financial side of the club? Which fans oversee the recruitment? Which fans are out the training ground? Absolutely none.

"I've explained that the way we go on won't help the team" The way the fans go on is by turning up in huge numbers week after week after week. I mean after what has gone on recently we are still taking around 4,500 to Wigan. Do you honestly believe the fans would bother travelling home and away if they wanted the team to fail.

Youre going on about fans arguing. Sorry but are the players on the field sitting watching while the game is in play watching a couple of fellas argue.

So again I will ask you name an actual specific incident that me or anyone else as a fan has contributed towards. An actual incident not some random shit about booing.

You constantly rabbit on about "booing". You go to any other ground in this country on any given Saturday and you listen to fans booing when their team has had a bad match or result or performance.

A question for me about the South Stand? I don't sit in the South Stand so I can't go on about what goes on in there. Do you honestly think me standing up and starting songs would have improved our defending yesterday.

Youre on about young players looking devoid of confidence. Fair enough. But they also look devoid of fitness. How is that down to the fans in the stand? That is down to piss poor decisions on behalf of the coaching staff. Not me sitting at the back of the stand.

As I've said there really is something not quite right with your opinions of Sunderland fans. You've never once denied my claims you have some kind of connection to the ownership.

And as I've said you are totally pathetic. I highly doubt you would dare criticise the fans face to face the way you do on here.
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The world isn't black and white. The problem isn't either us or them. I'll agree. again. that the owner, coaches, players etc are all responsible. Please don't ask again why I'm defending them, I'm not. Can I be any clearer?

What I'm asking is, as fans are we doing our bit. Yes, when we go to away games we take large numbers and the atmosphere at away games is often better. However, the atmosphere yesterday was toxic, that's can only make it harder for the players. It's in our gift to do something about that. We can't force a billionaire to take us over, we can't make our defence better, but we can do one thing and get behind the team. I think yesterday we could have done better as fans.
 
Be Here Now said:
Hep in many ways is like Stewart Donald

Blames the fans
Gets asked tough questions
Then goes quiet


Still awaiting to hear an incident that fans are to blame for or why you refuse any criticism of your beloved Madrox

Its clear that there is something behind your constant slagging off genuine people who go to work day after day whilst you defend millionaires like Methven.
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He's just sore because Madrox and KLD have made him look like a total and utter fool.

Fell for the share distribution hook, line and sinker.

Post after post after post after post (only on threads about Madrox or the shares) for months on end creating hypothetical situations to prove it was impossible KLD could have less than 51%. Even used 'maths' as proof KLD had over 51% and even after KLD and the club released a statement confirming the share distribution he still didn't believe it.

No wonder his still is in the denial stage and hitting out at random people to deflect from how much of a mug he's been made.

Incredible really. No wonder he's now raging they've been released 😂
 
Hep said:
The world isn't black and white. The problem isn't either us or them. I'll agree. again. that the owner, coaches, players etc are all responsible. Please don't ask again why I'm defending them, I'm not. Can I be any clearer?

What I'm asking is, as fans are we doing our bit. Yes, when we go to away games we take large numbers and the atmosphere at away games is often better. However, the atmosphere yesterday was toxic, that's can only make it harder for the players. It's in our gift to do something about that. We can't force a billionaire to take us over, we can't make our defence better, but we can do one thing and get behind the team. I think yesterday we could have done better as fans.
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You are defending them. You are an obnoxious smug idiot who does nothing but run down the fans who have put up with shit for years and years.

Sounds like someone familiar?

The only ones making it harder for themselves are the players. Youre on about the atmosphere is better at awaydays. Our worst results have been away from home. Were the fans who travelled hundreds of miles to blame.

Still no denial about your connections to them.

I don't what you are gaining from all of this but it is sickening.
 
Be Here Now said:
You are defending them. You are an obnoxious smug idiot who does nothing but run down the fans who have put up with shit for years and years.

Sounds like someone familiar?

The only ones making it harder for themselves are the players. Youre on about the atmosphere is better at awaydays. Our worst results have been away from home. Were the fans who travelled hundreds of miles to blame.

Still no denial about your connections to them.

I don't what you are gaining from all of this but it is sickening.
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How am I defending them? In the post you quote I've said they are responsible.

Do you think the fans were great yesterday?? E.g. couldn't be better?
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
He's just sore because Madrox and KLD have made him look like a total and utter fool.

Fell for the share distribution hook, line and sinker.

Post after post after post after post (only on threads about Madrox or the shares) for months on end creating hypothetical situations to prove it was impossible KLD could have less than 51%. Even used 'maths' as proof KLD had over 51% and even after KLD and the club released a statement confirming the share distribution he still didn't believe it.

No wonder his still is in the denial stage and hitting out at random people to deflect from how much of a mug he's been made.

Incredible really. No wonder he's now raging they've been released 😂
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He just comes across as an arrogant, obnoxious, smug individual who hates Sunderland fans.

Wonder who that reminds me of?
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Hep said:
How am I defending them? In the post you quote I've said they are responsible.

Do you think the fans were great yesterday?? E.g. couldn't be better?
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For fuck sake man. We get it you don't like Sunderland fans.

You honestly think a couple of songs from the fans would have made a difference?

Here is one for you Charlie

Youre on about the pressure or booing from the fans affecting the players. What was the excuse for the abysmal home results and performances last season when fans weren't allowed in. Was it the toxic atmosphere of 48,000 empty seats?
 
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Be Here Now said:
You are defending them. You are an obnoxious smug idiot who does nothing but run down the fans who have put up with shit for years and years.

Sounds like someone familiar?

The only ones making it harder for themselves are the players. Youre on about the atmosphere is better at awaydays. Our worst results have been away from home. Were the fans who travelled hundreds of miles to blame.

Still no denial about your connections to them.

I don't what you are gaining from all of this but it is sickening.
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Shocking really but fortunately, despite the hours he puts into trying to cause divides, nobody really gives a shit and have pressed on regardless. And any credibility he had has just gone up in a non disclosure contract shaped ball on flames.

I see @Steeeeed has offered to have him in a RAWA meeting so he can blame them all in person (for the club taking him forba complete fool). Has the offer been accepted?
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Shocking really but fortunately, despite the hours he puts into trying to cause divides, nobody really gives a shit and have pressed on regardless. And any credibility he had has just gone up in a non disclosure contract shaped ball on flames.

I see @Steeeeed has offered to have him in a RAWA meeting so he can blame them all in person (for the club taking him forba complete fool). Has the offer been accepted?
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It doesn't look like it.
 
Hep said:
Well I wonder why??? It's quite clear, a large section of us fans cannot cope with any sort of criticism at all.
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Hahahahaha the f***ing irony. People criticise your precious Madrox constantly and you take the huff when they do.

Why not go along to the meeting and air your views then or will you lose what privileges you must have from the club?

Still awaiting an incident fans are to blame for, still awaiting your motives for your anti-fan views, still awaiting a denial about connections to the club/ownership.

You won't go to the meeting because you will probably get asked tough questions like you do on here and you won't be able to answer them.
 
Be Here Now said:
Hahahahaha the f***ing irony. People criticise your precious Madrox constantly and you take the huff when they do.

Why not go along to the meeting and air your views then or will you lose what privileges you must have from the club?

Still awaiting an incident fans are to blame for, still awaiting your motives for your anti-fan views, still awaiting a denial about connections to the club/ownership.

You won't go to the meeting because you will probably get asked tough questions like you do on here and you won't be able to answer them.
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'We could be better' isn't the same as anti-fan.

You are blinkered by your hatred of the owners. I wouldn't go to the meeting if it's full of people like you who ask why I'm defending them immediately after the statement 'I'm not defending them'
 
Hep said:
'We could be better' isn't the same as anti-fan.

You are blinkered by your hatred of the owners. I wouldn't go to the meeting if it's full of people like you who ask why I'm defending them immediately after the statement 'I'm not defending them'
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You are anti fan Hep. You have the nerve to say "we could be better". So you tell me Hep. I've been to every home game this season, every away game bar two (Wigan in cup and Shrewsbury in league). I travel hundreds of miles spending thousands on tickets, travel, hotels, merchandise. And you have the nerve to say I could be better.

Im not blinkered by my hatred of the owners. I hate them because they are overseeing the worst period in the entire history of the football club I love to support. You wouldn't go to a meeting it will be full of people who care deeply about SAFC and want the best for the club whilst you sit with your head up Madrox's arse so afraid to slag them off because you are obviously are getting something back in return.

You may not be Charlie Methven but you are exactly what he stands for.
 
Hep said:
s. Get behind the team.
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30000 are turning up every week and selling out away every week spending good hard earned coin to watch utter shit and line the pockets of liars who have branded the fans some ridiculous things.

I'd imagine 5000 are going to Wigan soon as well if not more.......
Hep said:
No, it’s not all fans.

But those chanting shit at the back of the south stand caused a few arguments when we could have been getting behind the team.

The south stand is a shadow of its self
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A few arguments in the south stand isn't to blame for collecting 1 point in the last 5 league games
Hep said:
The fans demanding to know the share percentages.
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rightly so, they were lied to.
 
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