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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Where does the US get it's information when it pulled its monitoring team out of Donbass last weekend, is it these open source kids monitoring google earth and truckers posting web cam video on tik tok?
 
r@mside said:
Where does the US get it's information when it pulled its monitoring team out of Donbass last weekend, is it these open source kids monitoring google earth and truckers posting web cam video on tik tok?
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You're not far off I don't think. Because it's a cold snowy region, they can tell by how many tents are free from snow and ice in the top (due to heating) and how many new tyre tracks there are in the snow and the size of the tracks for the vehicle type.

Probably other methods as well but this is the one they are happy for us to know.
 
Wild Card said:
You're not far off I don't think. Because it's a cold snowy region, they can tell by how many tents are free from snow and ice in the top (due to heating) and how many new tyre tracks there are in the snow and the size of the tracks for the vehicle type.

Probably other methods as well but this is the one they are happy for us to know.
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If we're on the verge of WW3, I'm hoping the people at the top are using something more reliable than that. Handy for sowing panic and hysteria mind.
 
In 1999, a series of mysterious overnight explosions damaged or destroyed four apartment buildings in Moscow, Buynaksk, and Volgodonsk. More than 300 people were killed - many as they slept peacefully with their families.
The atrocities were blamed on religious extremists operating from the breakaway republic of Chechnya.
Russia's new Prime Minister, Vladimir Putin, said the Chechens responsible for the bombings should be squashed like vermin.
Remember that Putin was brand new. He'd only just been appointed the month before by President Boris Yeltsin, by then wildly unpopular after years of chaotic reforms and runaway corruption. Putin - Yeltsin's fifth prime minister in 18 months - was unpopular too.
The bombings - and Putin's tough-guy response - changed his political fortunes. Russian forces snuffed out the Chechen republic. Yeltsin surprised the world by resigning, handing Putin the presidency. Putin rode his newfound popularity to re-election a few months later.
This might have been the story of a fortuitous national emergency bailing out an unpopular leader - had it not been for what happened on the night of Sept. 22 in the Russian city of Ryazan.
The entire country was on edge, with apartment dwellers terrified their block of flats could be the next to blown to bits. Patrols are set up, residents are extra alert.
It's in that context that a couple of residents of an apartment building in Ryazan spot a suspicious vehicle loitering outside. They alert the authorities, who don't come in time to intercept the vehicle but do inspect the basement. They discover a massive bomb.
Chillingly, the device was set to go off at 5:30am - just like the bombs that slaughtered hundreds in Moscow and elsewhere. The Ryazan explosives shared the same chemical signature as the other bombs too. It seemed clear, initially, that this was part of the same grim campaign.
Authorities reacted as if another terror attack had been narrowly averted. Russian Interior Minister Vladimir Rushailo said so, as did the head of the local FSB, Alexander Sergeev, who went on television to congratulate the residents on being spared.
But the manhunt for the suspicious vehicle - a white Lada - and its occupants soon yielded a bewildering surprise: those who planted the bomb weren’t Chechens. They were FSB operatives.
Now caught in an awkward situation, the FSB belatedly announced that the incident had been a training exercise all along. The bomb? Bags of sugar. The sensor that picked up traces of explosives? Faulty.
The residents of the Ryazan apartment building were confused and frightened. What kind of a test involves dumping a getaway car and trying to flee the city?

Some journalists got too close to the truth and were killed.
 
What was it Churchill said before the 2nd world war? You don't negotiate with a tiger whilst your head is in its mouth.

It would appear Putin has enjoyed taking the piss out of UK and US with useful idiots and corruption and now that ride could be coming to an end he will have war.
Just as a bit of an aside this is the type of person Newcastle fans currently fawn over the f***ing morons, he is doing the same thing in Yemen
 
Super Mario said:
What was it Churchill said before the 2nd world war? You don't negotiate with a tiger whilst your head is in its mouth.

It would appear Putin has enjoyed taking the piss out of UK and US with useful idiots and corruption and now that ride could be coming to an end he will have war.
Just as a bit of an aside this is the type of person Newcastle fans currently fawn over the f***ing morons, he is doing the same thing in Yemen
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To be honest though we are complicit in backing that war
 
r@mside said:
Where does the US get it's information when it pulled its monitoring team out of Donbass last weekend, is it these open source kids monitoring google earth and truckers posting web cam video on tik tok?
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By intercepting Russian communications. The US have had billions of dollars worth of intelligence gathering planes cruising along the Russian-Ukrainian border for months
 
Not sure that US intelligence can be relied upon to provide accurate assessments. They had years of intelligence gathering in Afghanistan and they couldn't have got it more wrong. US intelligence is in the doldrums.
 
tynerider3 said:
Not sure that US intelligence can be relied upon to provide accurate assessments. They had years of intelligence gathering in Afghanistan and they couldn't have got it more wrong. US intelligence is in the doldrums.
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Very different situations though.

Apparently the US and West are ready to massively increase military aid and advanced weapons to Ukraine if they invade. Which will massively piss off Putin. Ukraine will benefit from an almost endless supply of equipment for a protracted war
 
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