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PTR said:
Plus, it gives that "he never beat me, he fouled me and I couldn't continue". I'm actually surprised it wasn't called a no-contest.
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Couldn't be a NC I don't believe. Was 6th round
 

PTR said:
Didn't the ref call the foul though?
Seems mad you can stop a fight with a foul and still be the winner??
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After 3rd round any accidental foul where one fight cannot or does not want to continue, it will go to the cards. Although I believe Hunter actually pulled Khan out.

Imagine what would happen every time an overmatched fighter caught an accidental headbutt for example...
 
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Titus said:
After 3rd round any accidental foul where one fight cannot or does not want to continue, it will go to the cards. Although I believe Hunter actually pulled Khan out.

Imagine what would happen every time an overmatched fighter caught an accidental headbutt for example...
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Nut shots are usually different though aren't they? Did it go to the cards? I think you're right, they counted it as a retirement?
See what I mean, it seems Kahn was stopped by a punch in the nads, which really doesn't seem right.

For the deliberate headbut one, if the ref counts the foul, then its the headbutter's fault. Tough shit?
 
PTR said:
Nut shots are usually different though aren't they? Did it go to the cards? I think you're right, they counted it as a retirement?
See what I mean, it seems Kahn was stopped by a punch in the nads, which really doesn't seem right.

For the deliberate headbut one, if the ref counts the foul, then its the headbutter's fault. Tough shit?
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It's about whether it's deemed accidental or not. Rounds 1-3 an accidental foul will be a NC, after that enough of the fight is deemed to have elapsed for it to go to the judges cards and be down to a technical decision.

Khan's corner pulled him out rather than using the alloted recovery time you have and thus it was seen as TKO. I'd he'd taken the time, said he's in too much pain to continue it would've gone to a TD instead.

My point with the last bit and to emphasize why the rules aren't daft was in instances such as this:

A fighter has lost all 9 rounds of a fight before getting injured from an accidental clash of heads. He can't continue after the referees alloted recovery time. Fair on the guy who's won all 9 rounds to have it go down as a NC?
 
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PTR said:
Nut shots are usually different though aren't they? Did it go to the cards? I think you're right, they counted it as a retirement?
See what I mean, it seems Kahn was stopped by a punch in the nads, which really doesn't seem right.

For the deliberate headbut one, if the ref counts the foul, then its the headbutter's fault. Tough shit?
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It was a retirement though. Khan could have continued but didn't want to get knocked out. Saw it as a safe way out, get paid and have an excuse for the loss that was already inevitable.

He got offered five minutes so it wasn't like. Duran v Buchanan situation.
 
Titus said:
It's about whether it's deemed accidental or not. Rounds 1-3 an accidental foul will be a NC, after that enough of the fight is deemed to have elapsed for it to go to the judges cards and be down to a technical decision.

Khan's corner pulled him out rather than using the alloted recovery time you have and thus it was seen as TKO. I'd he'd taken the time, said he's in too much pain to continue it would've gone to a TD instead.

My point with the last bit and to emphasize why the rules aren't daft was in instances such as this:

A fighter has lost all 9 rounds of a fight before getting injured from an accidental clash of heads. He can't continue after the referees alloted recovery time. Fair on the guy who's won all 9 rounds to have it go down as a NC?
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The ref wouldn't give a foul and take points off for an accidental head clash though. He took a point off for the nutshot didnt he?
Chatty83 said:
It was a retirement though. Khan could have continued but didn't want to get knocked out. Saw it as a safe way out, get paid and have an excuse for the loss that was already inevitable.
He got offered five minutes so it wasn't like.
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Yeah, totally agree.
But if the ref said it was a deliberate cock punch, and took a point off for it, and the other bloke can't continue, then its a bit "off" to have that punch also be the winning one?

Otherwise, going back to the example above, if you're losing a fight, just absolutely hoof someone in the balls so that they can't move for a week, and you win the fight. Gerrin!?
 
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PTR said:
The ref wouldn't give a foul and take points off for an accidental head clash though. He took a point off for the nutshot didnt he?
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You can deduct points for an accidental foul. The leg shot was very low, despite being accidental. Can't recall of he had a point deducted but you can be, so possibly
 
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PTR said:
The ref wouldn't give a foul and take points off for an accidental head clash though. He took a point off for the nutshot didnt he?

Yeah, totally agree.
But if the ref said it was a deliberate cock punch, and took a point off for it, and the other bloke can't continue, then its a bit "off" to have that punch also be the winning one?

Otherwise, going back to the example above, if you're losing a fight, just absolutely hoof someone in the balls so that they can't move for a week, and you win the fight. Gerrin!?
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You would lose though if you were losing and punch someone in the balls. You'd have to be up on the cards to win.

Khan didn't because he didn't take the 5 minutes to recover.
 
Chatty83 said:
You would lose though if you were losing and punch someone in the balls. You'd have to be up on the cards to win.

Khan didn't because he didn't take the 5 minutes to recover.
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This is what I don't get. If Kahn can't recover, why didn't it go to the scorecards? There's no point standing there in pain if you know you cannot recover in 5 minutes.
So the cards didn't matter, he won by TKO from a nutshot.
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You can deduct points for an accidental foul. The leg shot was very low, despite being accidental. Can't recall of he had a point deducted but you can be, so possibly
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That's a fair point, aye.
 
PTR said:
This is what I don't get. If Kahn can't recover, why didn't it go to the scorecards? There's no point standing there in pain if you know you cannot recover in 5 minutes.
So the cards didn't matter, he won by TKO from a nutshot.
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Because his corner didn't allow the doctor to make that decision and made the decision to pull him out themselves. If he had taken the recovery time and the doctor gave referee indication that he might genuinely have ruptured a testicle or something, it would have gone to the cards. The corner making the intervention means it's ruled a TKO.
 
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Because his corner didn't allow the doctor to make that decision and made the decision to pull him out themselves. If he had taken the recovery time and the doctor gave referee indication that he might genuinely have ruptured a testicle or something, it would have gone to the cards. The corner making the intervention means it's ruled a TKO.
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Strange one isn't it? You have to hang around for 10 minutes in agony to allow someone to examine your balls after a mandatory 5 minute wait in order for the opponet to receive any punishment beyond a point :)
 
PTR said:
Strange one isn't it? You have to hang around for 10 minutes in agony to allow someone to examine your balls after a mandatory 5 minute wait in order for the opponet to receive any punishment beyond a point :)
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He was punched in the leg mate.

It's also 'up to 5 mins', if doctor intervenes before then it's not 5 min. Many rules aren't perfect in boxing but if you have a think about the alternatives, this really isn't that bad and I think you're in the absolute minority to take issue with Khan getting a TKO loss for his corner pulling him out
 
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PTR said:
Maybe he just has a massive cock? :)

Edit: And Balls.
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Would've been safely confined inside that groin protector :lol:. He's undoubtedly got massive bollocks mind, I think the only possible pain he could've got to his balls is by the protector riding up from the shot being where it was. Even then, it just looked like a way to get out of the bout without going through the inevitable
 
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Crawford, Spence and Golovkin have fucked Brook's eye sockets that much, Khan just has to stay behind his jab. If Khan gets involved then we've seen his chin isn't the best.
Shame it wasn't 5-10 years ago when it would have bene a proper tear-up.
 
Getting surprisingly excited for this despite both being 5 years past their best.

Got Khan for KO rounds 1-3.

Khan ain't got 6 rounds in him so has to start quick.

Brooks punch resistance is non existent, crawford knocked him down with a jab and it was the 1st clean punch landed in that fight, Brook looked scared to take another punch after that and it was another jab that ended it
Hes got no confidence in his eye sockets for good reason.

Khan wont be jabbing early it'll be quick 1-2's for those first couple rounds.
 
Just watched back the Brook v GGG fight. Forgot how Brook took it to him for the first 3 rounds like, had GGG in trouble slightly. Dont remember Brook boxing that well. As soon as the eye injury occurred though it was game over.
 
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