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Chewit said:
It don’t work like mate unless you are a billionaires play thing and even then it can nearly put you out of business. We need a club built on a sustainable basis.
Then there are financial rules which you would think were almost deliberately put in place to stop us.
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It does work mate.
He is supposedly a billionaire.
Man City, Man Utd,Chelsea, and now The Mags. They all do it.
If billybigbollox KLD is serious, f***ing spend some of it. He's spent the square root of fuck all whilst here mate. Its all smoke and f***ing mirrors, and we're letting him get away with it.
 
Turnip from the Tip said:
Possibly this and maybe also the closer he got to it and after talking at length to the club, and perhaps after watching the games this week (who knows), he might have realised he didn’t want to return to football management as much as he thought he did.

That’s not a slur against anyone, but the likelihood now is he won’t go on to have a career as a manager. And maybe he’s discovered through all this he’s quite content with that.
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I kind of agree with you,it was exciting for a time him and us but the hunger was not there in reality
 
Georgewhitt said:
It does work mate.
He is supposedly a billionaire.
Man City, Man Utd,Chelsea, and now The Mags. They all do it.
If billybigbollox KLD is serious, f***ing spend some of it. He's spent the square root of fuck all whilst here mate. Its all smoke and f***ing mirrors, and we're letting him get away with it.
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I think your talking about a different stratosphere to the one we operate in my friend.
 
Georgewhitt said:
He did not overspend.
And even you must admit that the way we have gone about this as a club has been farcical. With his professionalism, that everyone who has worked with him will attest to, our amateurism was probably enough to make him think "fuck that"
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I think your latter point is a possibility but I don’t know.
He spent a fortune relative to quality of player in his first prem season- salaries as much as anything , Chopra and McShane for starters. Only Evans was quality and he didn’t belong to us.
Did well to keep us up to be fair.
 
Turnip from the Tip said:
Possibly this and maybe also the closer he got to it and after talking at length to the club, and perhaps after watching the games this week (who knows), he might have realised he didn’t want to return to football management as much as he thought he did.

That’s not a slur against anyone, but the likelihood now is he won’t go on to have a career as a manager. And maybe he’s discovered through all this he’s quite content with that.
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Think you might not be a million miles away.
 
gretzky said:
If Roy Keane really was offered the job and has walked away he’s as weak as piss.
What an amazing amazing opportunity this club is for a manager.
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100% agree with this, the bloke could have walked into this club and done anything and still being seen as a hero, league one on the back of 3 failed promotion attempts and 2 defeats against poorer teams, the stage was set, plays offa no matter how it went and the crack would have been lets go get ready for next season and set a record points total next season lets have it big style but he walks away ?!?
 
Chewit said:
I think your latter point is a possibility but I don’t know.
He spent a fortune relative to quality of player in his first prem season- salaries as much as anything , Chopra and McShane for starters. Only Evans was quality and he didn’t belong to us.
Did well to keep us up to be fair.
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I think that’s unfair. Chopra was good in the first PL year and scored some crucial goals. We pretty much made our money back for him. Same with Kenwyne Jones. He also signed Malbranque who was excellent.

He also signed players who stayed for years in Bardsley and Richardson.

The first year, the signings of Connolly, Miller, Wallace, Stokes and Edwards was vital to us getting promoted.
 
gretzky said:
If Roy Keane really was offered the job and has walked away he’s as weak as piss.
What an amazing amazing opportunity this club is for a manager.
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Weak as piss or very astute? We’ll never know. If it didn’t look or feel right (from either side) it’s good that it hasn’t happened. I’d like to think the delay was down to proper due diligence and ultimately it just wasn’t right. Unlikely to work.

It’s been costly for sure, might have cost us promotion in the end (or might not), but it was worth pursuing. No regrets!
 
Frankel said:
I think that’s unfair. Chopra was good in the first PL year and scored some crucial goals. We pretty much made our money back for him. Same with Kenwyne Jones. He also signed Malbranque who was excellent.

He also signed players who stayed for years in Bardsley and Richardson.

The first year, the signings of Connolly, Miller, Wallace, Stokes and Edwards was vital to us getting promoted.
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I was talking value for money and relative expenditure for the time, Gordon raised a few eye brows.
Malbrang was the season after. Big Kenwynne fan I was. But there was a lot of very average footballers in that crop. Higgenbotham was another.
Like I say to keep us up was a big achievement
 
Chewit said:
I think your latter point is a possibility but I don’t know.
He spent a fortune relative to quality of player in his first prem season- salaries as much as anything , Chopra and McShane for starters. Only Evans was quality and he didn’t belong to us.
Did well to keep us up to be fair.
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Richardson was a good signing as well. One of the better players in our last fifteen years, not that that's saying all that much admittedly.
 
Chewit said:
I think your talking about a different stratosphere to the one we operate in my friend.
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I'm talking about company we kept very recently my friend.

We have a massive following , in a poxy little league, and a board with no intention of even trying to remedy it. And we have some fans who are happy to trot along with them "because of the vision of a sustainable model in line with the boards business plan for a successful future".

Chug along with second rate no marks as coaches, and your DOFs that know fuck all about the game, and enjoy your "sustainability", while the rest of us grit our teeth, buy our tickets that have gone up even though we were promised they wouldn't online because the caring club won't take cash, buy our kids shirts online, because the caring club has closed the f***ing shop when its needed, all the while hoping that at some point in the future, another chance like we've just had comes up, and we don't royally fuck it up again.

FTM and fuck the board.
 
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Chewit said:
I was talking value for money and relative expenditure for the time, Gordon raised a few eye brows.
Malbrang was the season after. Big Kenwynne fan I was. But there was a lot of very average footballers in that crop. Higgenbotham was another.
Like I say to keep us up was a big achievement
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What we’d give for a Higginbotham now!
 
gretzky said:
If Roy Keane really was offered the job and has walked away he’s as weak as piss.
What an amazing amazing opportunity this club is for a manager.
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Alternatively, if Roy Keane was offered the job and walked away, he saw something wrong or met a philosophy/system of working he didn't agree with and went with his principles. Works both ways.

For US, it's an amazing opportunity but we have to be able to see that we're viewed as a failing club? Looking at our 5th year in the third tier following back-to-back relegations. Ownership bollocks for years. Manager merry-go-round for longer. Superb stadium and superb fans but they can turn in an instant. From an outsider, it must look like a f***ing nightmare to manage.
 
Roy Keane could have sad all kinds of mad shit that put the owners off.

I think this is the right decision. Roy Keane would've been an absolute brexit of an appointment.

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gretzky said:
If Roy Keane really was offered the job and has walked away he’s as weak as piss.
What an amazing amazing opportunity this club is for a manager.
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Think it’s hard to say he’s weak as piss mind, we’ll never know the details of the contract or why Keane supposedly knocked it back. Length of the deal? His back room staff choices didn’t want to come? Wanted control of transfers? Who knows?

I do agree this was his one last realistic big shot at management though, can’t see many clubs who will offer him a chance the longer he stays out of the touch line.
 
If Keane had wanted more money than the average manager of this league then I'm glad he isn't coming now. Says he wants to get back into club management for years and is a football man but thinks more about the money than the opportunity he could have here? No thanks.

I doubt he will get a better opportunity somewhere else, if he is happy to stay on as a pundit for more money than come back into football then so be it, that's his decision.
 
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