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Roy Keane

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Kenna said:
Tbh he had a different job at Birmingham than he has here, why we let him do stuff he never has before is beyond me.
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I don't really have an issue with him being given the chance. We've all done jobs "for the first time" at some point.
My issue with it is that he has been allowed to continue, when he has been shown to be incapable of fulfilling his role.
 
hardlife said:
Academy manager was it?

Only here would he be given the authority to rule....KLDs proper swallowed his bait.
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Something like that, was in charge of development of the youth and what not and we decided to put him in an almost CEO role it seems.
 
timeforheroes1 said:
"Sunderland's top brass - Louis-Dreyfus, sporting director
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, chief operating officer Steve Davison, non-exec director David Jones, and minority shareholder
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- was at Whaddon Road last night and they should feel deeply, deeply, ashamed at what is happening on their watch"

honestly past the point in caring when that f***ing prick is still involved and hanging around
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At least Donald has fucked off where he isnt seen, Methven is the worst of the worst, absolute parasite that wont fuck off.
 
Georgewhitt said:
I don't really have an issue with him being given the chance. We've all done jobs "for the first time" at some point.
My issue with it is that he has been allowed to continue, when he has been shown to be incapable of fulfilling his role.
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I think its bad days, but early days. So he'll have organised recruitment, coaching structures, preparation all of the stuff is transferable. The issue has been getting the right first team head coach for me with the right experience. Johnson wasn't what he needed to compliment him. This is a big appointment for that reason and is why i'm not sure about McCann or a less experienced coach. They need to know what a big club needs. Keane, Neil and probably even Lennon fit the bill in that way - we need the right personality with it though .
 
There has been a merger here and posts deleted (?) that has confused my simple brain.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
I think its bad days, but early days. So he'll have organised recruitment, coaching structures, preparation all of the stuff is transferable. The issue has been getting the right first team head coach for me with the right experience. Johnson wasn't what he needed to compliment him. This is a big appointment for that reason and is why i'm not sure about McCann or a less experienced coach. They need to know what a big club needs. Keane, Neil and probably even Lennon fit the bill in that way - we need the right personality with it though .
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Good points mate, but I still feel that Keane is the ONLY appointment they can make.

Any other is fucked before they start, mainly down to the dithering allowing the strength of feeling about it all to grow.
 
My guess would be:

  1. Club never intended to get Keane (They had Mccann or someone else entirely in mind)
  2. Keane has expressed interest and has approached club
  3. Club thinking 'We don't want him but we'll have speak to him anyway'
  4. Us fans want Keane
  5. Club have been unable to contain the media speculation about Keane (due to total inexperience/incompetence of dealing with a story about a personality of that stature)
  6. Club have thought 'Oh shit, better open negotiations'
  7. They have also thought 'It's okay, we can save this, let's play him along'
  8. 'Oh shit, he's just more or less announced to the public on TV that he feels the job is almost his due to our piss poor tactics ballsing up'
  9. Us fans getting massively excited at the prospect of a legend coming back to sort us out
  10. 'It's okay KLD, I (Speakman) will downplay it at the game tomorrow against Doncaster on SAFC fans TV announcing we are still carrying out our process, that will surely buy us time, as should an easy win today, I have faith in Dodds and Proctor.'
  11. 'Shit, getting pasted by doncaster hasn't helped'
  12. 'Oh bugger, Keane has again dropped a huge hint to fans that he feels he is frontrunner today on TV'
  13. 'Don't say anything for a few days, we can ride this out, the fans will be able to cope with it a week more. We'll avoid getting beat at Cheltenham Tuesday night, a different team should be okay to do a job.'
  14. 'KLD, we've just been pasted by Cheltenham, I don't know what we should do, I'll ask Davison, Methven and Donald'
  15. 'KLD, it's now Wednesday, 10 days since we have sacked Johnson and I've asked around and no one has a clue - I say we leave it until next week until fan anger has cooled then we'll get our man in, Keane will walk away, job done'.
 
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I do think we are at a breaking point here, KLDs got to decide does he keep the charlatan Speakman or do the right thing and bring in a vastly experienced ex player and manager who's been through the process of seeing and doing at the highest level.

No brainer for me....yes if he wants to keep this model, go out, find and pay for the best available not another charlatan.
 
HoxtonMackem said:
My guess would be:

  1. Club never intended to get Keane (They had Mccann or someone else entirely in mind)
  2. Keane has expressed interest and has approached club
  3. Club thinking 'We don't want him but we'll have speak to him anyway'
  4. Us fans want Keane
  5. Club have been unable to contain the media speculation about Keane (due to total inexperience/incompetence of dealing with a story about a personality of that stature)
  6. Club have thought 'Oh shit, better open negotiations'
  7. They have also thought 'It's okay, we can save this, let's play him along'
  8. 'Oh shit, he's just more or less announced to the public on TV that he feels the job is almost his due to our piss poor tactics ballsing up'
  9. Us fans getting massively excited at the prospect of a legend coming back to sort us out
  10. 'It's okay KLD, I (Speakman) will downplay it at the game tomorrow against Doncaster on SAFC fans TV announcing we are still carrying out our process, that will surely buy us time'
  11. 'Shit, getting pasted by doncaster hasn't helped'
  12. 'Oh bugger, Keane has again dropped a huge hint to fans that he feels he is frontrunner today on TV'
  13. 'Don't say anything for a few days, we can ride this out, the fans will be able to cope with it a week more'
  14. 'KLD, we've just been pasted by Cheltenham, I don't know what we should do, I'll ask Davison, Methven and Donald'
  15. 'KLD, it's now Wednesday, 10 days since we have sacked Johnson and I've asked around and no one has a clue - I say we leave it until next week until fan anger has cooled then we'll get our man in, Keane will walk away, job done'.
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Spot on 👍
 
HoxtonMackem said:
My guess would be:

  1. Club never intended to get Keane (They had Mccann or someone else entirely in mind)
  2. Keane has expressed interest and has approached club
  3. Club thinking 'We don't want him but we'll have speak to him anyway'
  4. Us fans want Keane
  5. Club have been unable to contain the media speculation about Keane (due to total inexperience/incompetence of dealing with a story about a personality of that stature)
  6. Club have thought 'Oh shit, better open negotiations'
  7. They have also thought 'It's okay, we can save this, let's play him along'
  8. 'Oh shit, he's just more or less announced to the public on TV that he feels the job is almost his due to our piss poor tactics ballsing up'
  9. Us fans getting massively excited at the prospect of a legend coming back to sort us out
  10. 'It's okay KLD, I (Speakman) will downplay it at the game tomorrow against Doncaster on SAFC fans TV announcing we are still carrying out our process, that will surely buy us time'
  11. 'Shit, getting pasted by doncaster hasn't helped'
  12. 'Oh bugger, Keane has again dropped a huge hint to fans that he feels he is frontrunner today on TV'
  13. 'Don't say anything for a few days, we can ride this out, the fans will be able to cope with it a week more'
  14. 'KLD, we've just been pasted by Cheltenham, I don't know what we should do, I'll ask Davison, Methven and Donald'
  15. 'KLD, it's now Wednesday, 10 days since we have sacked Johnson and I've asked around and no one has a clue - I say we leave it until next week until fan anger has cooled then we'll get our man in, Keane will walk away, job done'.
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:lol: probably spot on mate
 
Breamish Valley said:
Are we 100 per cent sure the names bandied around are correct and there’s not someone else no one is aware of -? because there is no info from anywhere that seems it can be collaborated
Asking for …..myself ?
( the lack of communication is astounding!)
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Lack of communication is a disgrace, they need to fill the void, absolute basics...I cannot believe there hasn't been any sort of update from the club this morning, staggering.
 
Rubberface has stated on numerous occasions the deal is done and Keane is our manager and will be holding a scarf up soon.
He sounds positive and a good itk.
Hopefully he’s right
 
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