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Without looking through the thread since 12...and having just got in from todays shambles.
Have to say even i didnt see that rubbish coming, we were battered from a team who always gets battered.

If we don't land Keane we are well and truly screwed.
 
I think Speakman and co’s thorough approach will not dividends over time. Balancing that with short term success though requires good decisions. I don’t think Johnson was a bad one - they’re all gambles and he did some good but didnt quite make the best choices to win enough games but you can see how we have squad players now for Johnson’s system which is flawed which weakens the next man. We just need a winning coach/ manager now which will buy time for the thorough approach to bed in. Being too purist may be counter productive with this one. In a way if the first team fails the plan might not be around long enough to bear fruit.
I'd like to agree with you mate, but I think they are falling at the first hurdle.
Long term success will only come to fruition if major decisions, such as management changes are handled correctly and even their most ardent supporters would agree they have so far completely mishandled this one.
Succession planning is a basic for any long term business plan, and in my eyes, this has shown that they clearly hadn't forseen LJ going, or planned for it, even though they felt it right to pull the trigger when they did.
Poor, poor management mate.
 
Remind me of the positivity behind our results in 2022? Beaten at home by two teams in the bottom 5, One win. Beaten 6-0, 5 points from 18 (6 games) which is relegation form in League 1.
Oh aye I know I'm not complaining . Its just the last few days the place was buzzing and it was practically dead by 5pm :lol:
 
Not only that but the 2nd half vs Bolton followed by the 1st 45 today were quite possibly the two most abject performances many of us have ever witnessed in our lifetimes. A spectacular implosion. Players have completely gone
It's bizarre that after looking fantastic at times this season we are suddenly the worst team in the league. Even by our standards this fall has been another level.
 
I'd like to agree with you mate, but I think they are falling at the first hurdle.
Long term success will only come to fruition if major decisions, such as management changes are handled correctly and even their most ardent supporters would agree they have so far completely mishandled this one.
Succession planning is a basic for any long term business plan, and in my eyes, this has shown that they clearly hadn't forseen LJ going, or planned for it, even though they felt it right to pull the trigger when they did.
Poor, poor management mate.
I think we’re agreeing in a way. The long term stuff, restructuring academy, recruitment, all that stuff is good and will bear fruit and you have to look ahead. I’m right behind it. But getting the first team appointment wrong will mean whoever it is doesn’t last long enough to see it. I can’t help but think there was a massive fall out with LJ somehow - something big happened - because not having the next bit in place for today has cost us more than I think he thought before the game. Not enough urgency at all. Information is good but nobody wanted that update. They wanted a manager in to kick our arses and get three points. They have to get this right. I personally think the experience of Keane and his clear thinking would be the perfect addition to the recruitment plan they’ve got in place. He would balance it with reality and make strength of personality and will to win as important as technical ability.
 
I would go to Cheshire and give Keane a piggy back to Sunderland if he would accept the challenge, but I don’t believe there is a manager alive who could do anything with 50% of that team today.
 
Not only that but the 2nd half vs Bolton followed by the 1st 45 today were quite possibly the two most abject performances many of us have ever witnessed in our lifetimes. A spectacular implosion. Players have completely gone
and they had the brass neck to complain about Johnson getting the sack. They downed tools for him. I wasnt his biggest fan but he and we as supporters deserved a lot better.

Rolloed over twice in two weeks and in front of nigh on 40,000 today and 6,000 travelling last week.

They are as weak as water and soft as shite. No leadership and no pride.

Cant wait till Keane gets into that dressing room.
 
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