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NUFC Sportswashing 2022

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Jonny hates jazz said:
Lyon have previous of doing this when a deal is close. Lacazette, Mendy, Fakir to name a few. They have to notify the Paris stock exchange first so don't cave in until its all done as it could detrimental to share prices mid transfer.
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They haven’t accepted anything yet

Nor will they by the sounds of it if it’s a 5yr instalment deal
 

Bear said:
Thought they could spend £200m this window given how well MA had ran them

Yet want to pay for a £35m player over 5yrs 😳😂
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The Mail reckoned they could have a net transfer spend of 160m over three years to stay within FFP.

They might shout they're the richest club in the world but they're gonna have to find a load of sponsors to be able to spend it because they haven't got much to sell.
 
Jonny hates jazz said:
Lyon have previous of doing this when a deal is close. Lacazette, Mendy, Fakir to name a few. They have to notify the Paris stock exchange first so don't cave in until its all done as it could detrimental to share prices mid transfer.
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Staveley also has extensive previous of flapping her gums to the press prematurely claiming deals are done.
 
ontap said:
You get my point tho, was replying o the post saying he is being bought to play up front with Woods and it will be long ball football.
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I'm aware of where he plays mate.
The Mags normally are desperate for a goal in the last ten minutes - they'll be throwing him up for corners
 
They've been relatively open all along about the fact that they wouldn't be spending much money:

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That list consisted of Mauro Icardi, Nathan Ake, David Brooks, Callum Wilson, Hamza Choudhury, Demarai Gray and Adam Lallana.

It was also stated that there were plans to make significant changes to the backroom staff, make sizeable donations to the Newcastle United Foundation and support Wallsend Boys Club and the Great North Run (via
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Have to remember that Staveley spent months haggling Ashley down from £330m to £300m, and then had to borrow half of her deposit from him (even though she later denied this).

Since they got their feet under the table, Unai Emery has fucked them off, the Chief Executive has left 7 days after joining, and it seems a whole host of clubs and players have knocked them back in the transfer window. No one wants to go near them when they see the details.

Its not that difficult to find players that would improve them enough to finish above Watford, Norwich, and Burnley, which is their immediate objective. There's players like that all over Europe. Big Sam got us Kirchoff, Kone, and Khazri in this window. Yet they haven't been able to do it. Ashley got them 3 french internationals and 2 other players when he was in a similar position. The only explanation at this point is that they haven't got the money, which to be fair, was never any secret.

Which makes spending £25m on Chris Wood an extraordinarily stupid decision. He's on a 2.5 year contract as well. Even if he performs relatively well, his value will plummet to next to nothing in almost no time. They didn't really need a right back either. You just can't afford to make dreadful decisions like that when you're on a lower midtable budget, and it looks like that was all the money they had. They are more like Venkys Chicken than Man City owners. They currently have the worst side they've had in 30 years and if they go down, their owners mightn't be able to prop them up next season.

You do wonder why PIF would have anything to do with this at all, and I really don't know. The only thing that I can think of is related to the PR angle. Very easy to forget now, but when this deal was first mooted, there was a genuine expectation that fans might protest against the idea of these people owning their club (!) Khasshogi had only been dead for a little over a year at that point. If they went and spent billions on Man United or Inter, the concern would be that the whole thing would backfire and create more negative publicity than good. Staveley had been kicking about the middle east looking to buy a club for years - why not give her the money (less than the cost of the Crown Prince's yacht) and see what the response is? They'll get their investment back off her one day, and they'd have a better idea of what the results would be if they ever decided to do it for real. Bin Salman has spent loads on PR people to try and salvage his image. It would be a very useful exercise for them.

Either way, the money clearly isn't there now. Maybe Staveley and her husband hope that will change? Maybe that's why her fella's spending his spare time superimposing the PIF director's head onto Shearer?

The immediate future for the mags looks very bleak indeed for me. Wouldn't be surprised to see Defoe blasting goals past them for us again before 2022 is out.
 
Skellington said:
They've been relatively open all along about the fact that they wouldn't be spending much money:

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That list consisted of Mauro Icardi, Nathan Ake, David Brooks, Callum Wilson, Hamza Choudhury, Demarai Gray and Adam Lallana.

It was also stated that there were plans to make significant changes to the backroom staff, make sizeable donations to the Newcastle United Foundation and support Wallsend Boys Club and the Great North Run (via
You must be logged on to see external links
).

Have to remember that Staveley spent months haggling Ashley down from £330m to £300m, and then had to borrow half of her deposit from him (even though she later denied this).

Since they got their feet under the table, Unai Emery has fucked them off, the Chief Executive has left 7 days after joining, and it seems a whole host of clubs and players have knocked them back in the transfer window. No one wants to go near them when they see the details.

Its not that difficult to find players that would improve them enough to finish above Watford, Norwich, and Burnley, which is their immediate objective. There's players like that all over Europe. Big Sam got us Kirchoff, Kone, and Khazri in this window. Yet they haven't been able to do it. Ashley got them 3 french internationals and 2 other players when he was in a similar position. The only explanation at this point is that they haven't got the money, which to be fair, was never any secret.

Which makes spending £25m on Chris Wood an extraordinarily stupid decision. He's on a 2.5 year contract as well. Even if he performs relatively well, his value will plummet to next to nothing in almost no time. They didn't really need a right back either. You just can't afford to make dreadful decisions like that when you're on a lower midtable budget, and it looks like that was all the money they had. They are more like Venkys Chicken than Man City owners. They currently have the worst side they've had in 30 years and if they go down, their owners mightn't be able to prop them up next season.

You do wonder why PIF would have anything to do with this at all, and I really don't know. The only thing that I can think of is related to the PR angle. Very easy to forget now, but when this deal was first mooted, there was a genuine expectation that fans might protest against the idea of these people owning their club (!) Khasshogi had only been dead for a little over a year at that point. If they went and spent billions on Man United or Inter, the concern would be that the whole thing would backfire and create more negative publicity than good. Staveley had been kicking about the middle east looking to buy a club for years - why not give her the money (less than the cost of the Crown Prince's yacht) and see what the response is? They'll get their investment back off her one day, and they'd have a better idea of what the results would be if they ever decided to do it for real. Bin Salman has spent loads on PR people to try and salvage his image. It would be a very useful exercise for them.

Either way, the money clearly isn't there now. Maybe Staveley and her husband hope that will change? Maybe that's why her fella's spending his spare time superimposing the PIF director's head onto Shearer?

The immediate future for the mags looks very bleak indeed for me. Wouldn't be surprised to see Defoe blasting goals past them for us again before 2022 is out.
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Its the wages they seem to be increasing. Its as if they are happy to spend money over a period rather than blowing it on £100M signings
 
Roker Mackem said:
Its the wages they seem to be increasing. Its as if they are happy to spend money over a period rather than blowing it on £100M signings
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A very worrying thought if you are a Newcastle fan

A player on a big contract doesn't perform but takes the money and rides it out in the reserves. Its happened before
Out of curiosity, and this is genuine interest rather than any belief that it would happen to them up the road... because its incredibly unlikely

If you "buy" a player over 5 years, and after 2 he retires through injury, or circumstance change and you can't afford them anymore.... what happens?
 
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Redandwhitedust said:
A very worrying thought if you are a Newcastle fan

A player on a big contract doesn't perform but takes the money and rides it out in the reserves. Its happened before
Out of curiosity, and this is genuine interest rather than any belief that it would happen to them up the road... because its incredibly unlikely

If you "buy" a player over 5 years, and after 2 he retires through injury, or circumstance change and you can't afford them anymore.... what happens?
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You get your heed chopped off
 
Scotty 1978 said:
Why is the richest club in the world wanting to pay 40 million in 5 payments
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I'd imagine it's so that spreading payments that gives them scope to spend shit loads more without breaching FFP. Just a thought like. It how most clubs do business. Apart from Ashley.
Redandwhitedust said:
A very worrying thought if you are a Newcastle fan

A player on a big contract doesn't perform but takes the money and rides it out in the reserves. Its happened before
Out of curiosity, and this is genuine interest rather than any belief that it would happen to them up the road... because its incredibly unlikely

If you "buy" a player over 5 years, and after 2 he retires through injury, or circumstance change and you can't afford them anymore.... what happens?
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They'll be insured.


I wouldn't worry about them falling on hard times, mind
Skellington said:
They've been relatively open all along about the fact that they wouldn't be spending much money:

You must be logged on to see external links

You must be logged on to see external links

That list consisted of Mauro Icardi, Nathan Ake, David Brooks, Callum Wilson, Hamza Choudhury, Demarai Gray and Adam Lallana.

It was also stated that there were plans to make significant changes to the backroom staff, make sizeable donations to the Newcastle United Foundation and support Wallsend Boys Club and the Great North Run (via
You must be logged on to see external links
).

Have to remember that Staveley spent months haggling Ashley down from £330m to £300m, and then had to borrow half of her deposit from him (even though she later denied this).

Since they got their feet under the table, Unai Emery has fucked them off, the Chief Executive has left 7 days after joining, and it seems a whole host of clubs and players have knocked them back in the transfer window. No one wants to go near them when they see the details.

Its not that difficult to find players that would improve them enough to finish above Watford, Norwich, and Burnley, which is their immediate objective. There's players like that all over Europe. Big Sam got us Kirchoff, Kone, and Khazri in this window. Yet they haven't been able to do it. Ashley got them 3 french internationals and 2 other players when he was in a similar position. The only explanation at this point is that they haven't got the money, which to be fair, was never any secret.

Which makes spending £25m on Chris Wood an extraordinarily stupid decision. He's on a 2.5 year contract as well. Even if he performs relatively well, his value will plummet to next to nothing in almost no time. They didn't really need a right back either. You just can't afford to make dreadful decisions like that when you're on a lower midtable budget, and it looks like that was all the money they had. They are more like Venkys Chicken than Man City owners. They currently have the worst side they've had in 30 years and if they go down, their owners mightn't be able to prop them up next season.

You do wonder why PIF would have anything to do with this at all, and I really don't know. The only thing that I can think of is related to the PR angle. Very easy to forget now, but when this deal was first mooted, there was a genuine expectation that fans might protest against the idea of these people owning their club (!) Khasshogi had only been dead for a little over a year at that point. If they went and spent billions on Man United or Inter, the concern would be that the whole thing would backfire and create more negative publicity than good. Staveley had been kicking about the middle east looking to buy a club for years - why not give her the money (less than the cost of the Crown Prince's yacht) and see what the response is? They'll get their investment back off her one day, and they'd have a better idea of what the results would be if they ever decided to do it for real. Bin Salman has spent loads on PR people to try and salvage his image. It would be a very useful exercise for them.

Either way, the money clearly isn't there now. Maybe Staveley and her husband hope that will change? Maybe that's why her fella's spending his spare time superimposing the PIF director's head onto Shearer?

The immediate future for the mags looks very bleak indeed for me. Wouldn't be surprised to see Defoe blasting goals past them for us again before 2022 is out.
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Fantasy land.

They'll spend a fortune in the next few days. There'll be clubs trying to blag as much as they can and it'll all unravel towards the deadline.
 
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tommoftm said:
I'd imagine it's so that spreading payments that gives them scope to spend shit loads more without breaching FFP. Just a thought like. It how most clubs do business. Apart from Ashley.


They'll be insured.


I wouldn't worry about them falling on hard times, mind


Fantasy land.

They'll spend a fortune in the next few days. There'll be clubs trying to blag as much as they can and it'll all unravel towards the deadline.
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More than a whiff of gravy here
 
tommoftm said:
They'll be insured.


I wouldn't worry about them falling on hard times, mind
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It was a generic question rather than aimed at them to be honest.

But if this didn't work out and in a few years there weren't titles won, or good publicity and the Saudis lost interest.... a big wage bill would not be appealling to a buyer

I cant see it happening, but spending vast sums of money and having huge wage bills can't be permeantly sustainable if you don't have the global brand to back it up.... and Newcastle don't have that, and might never have that unless they win things
 
tommoftm said:
I'd imagine it's so that spreading payments that gives them scope to spend shit loads more without breaching FFP. Just a thought like. It how most clubs do business. Apart from Ashley.


They'll be insured.


I wouldn't worry about them falling on hard times, mind


Fantasy land.

They'll spend a fortune in the next few days. There'll be clubs trying to blag as much as they can and it'll all unravel towards the deadline.
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Bit strange how 99% of your posts have been on this thread also signed up just after the takeover


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