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Put a flat earthier into space

Anything will move lower to your eye if you walk away from it.

Don't let this one slip by, fellers. :lol:

Nukelaus Coperniclown's 58th law of motion.
I offered experiments but they were waved away.

No they weren't "waved away". We explained to you why the experiments were flawed and how you'd need to change them for them to work as HONEST UNBIASED scientific experiments, and then you took the huff about it and dug your heels in.
 
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Yep

Still think he believes this stuff.

Problem is he has had his arguments totally deconstructed and is out of his depth. The only way he is able to respond is to double down into repetition and trolling, which has been clear in the way he has been posting since the end of last week.

Atmospheric dense barrier (a new term he has created) can be measured in any unit you choose, but is apparently a real thing and is part of an equation with distance. A prime example of his new trolling
That is what I feel, he is just on repeat refusing to give any details of his flat water experiment, mostly because he did say last week, just by looking at it. He then backtracked and started floundering around the "work it out yourself" line, which is a variation on the old conspiracy theorist line "do you own research".

It is a trait I have noticed in conspiracy theorists. Come out with something that is easy to say at high level but drill down into the details and their argument falls apart. "Do your own research" is a last ditch desperate attempt and pretty much says, I've ran out of material for my argument, please make the argument for me even though you disagree with it.

Now he is stuck in a loop saying "anyone can simply prove this", posting long responses to every question but none of them with details of such experiments, because they are not real and he has not actually proved this for himself. Most likely stood at Whitley Bay with a bag of chips looking out to see, thinking "yeah that looks flat" and went from there.

The bottom line is that there is no proof the earth is not a spinning globe and until some is offered that is not just hand wavey bollocks of "you figure it out yourself" then 330 pages in the fact remains, no proof against has been offered. We will likely keep going around in this loop forever of us saying "show us your experiment" and him replying "waffle waffle, lies deflection".
 
For about the 10th time @Nukehasslefan what experiments did you do to show the centre was made of crystals and not something else?
There is no experiment.

I did suggest that if this dome is super reflective then we could reflect something off it ourselves. Light, sound, radar etc. If we can map the ocean floor we can map the dome with ease. I got some waffle saying that would not work. Super reflective for super carbon arc crystal projections, but not for anything man made that might disprove it. Convenient.
 
Tell me one, just one
Already have but it's not to your taste because you'd like to have some kind of ultra sensitive equipment, somehow, to verify it. Whatever that sensitive equipment is, I'm not sure. Are you?
Yep

Still think he believes this stuff.

Problem is he has had his arguments totally deconstructed and is out of his depth.
Absolutely not.
The only way he is able to respond is to double down into repetition and trolling, which has been clear in the way he has been posting since the end of last week.
This is the general go to piece when the argument weakens and the en masse attempts at ridicule have next to zero effect.
Atmospheric dense barrier (a new term he has created) can be measured in any unit you choose, but is apparently a real thing and is part of an equation with distance. A prime example of his new trolling
I say measure it because you can use whatever you wish. You know it's there so use what reference there is to it.
@Nukehasslefan can you tell us what instruments (if any) you used in your water level experiment.

It was also stated that the curvature over 6ft would not be observable with the naked eye, do you agree or disagree with that?
I've explained plenty of tests.
Do you reject everything you don't understand and come up with alternative narratives that 'seem right' to you.
Nope. I accept a lot. Acceptance does not mean I believe it, it just means I have no reason or need at the time to question it.
I'm here for science. It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. We can't have brainwashed idiot pseudoscientists running wild spreading their lies unchallenged.
I have to challenge. It would be a sorry world if people just believed everything without proof.
Cumulative air? Like the effects of fog?
That's one.
But the atmosphere is effectively a fluid..... and over distance the mass of that fluid builds and blocks out more and more light back to the eye.
What do you estimate the normal visible rage to be then before this inhibits viewing an injustice in a direct line of sight?
That depends on the atmospheric set up, whether it's a hot climate or a mild climate or a cold to freezing. There's many variations.
Our main sight to the theoretical horizon line can be in range of a few miles but objects above that theoretical horizon line can be 10's or even 100's of miles away depending on size and the actual position of the observer to a high point.

So many variations but they all boils down to atmospheric stacking. It's just about putting your mind to it.
For about the 10th time @Nukehasslefan what experiments did you do to show the centre was made of crystals and not something else?
Lots of stuff that's in our faces.
Try and put your mind to it.
It requires you to actually dig deeper so I don't waste my time explaining stuff that will be just laughed at.
Offer something if you're interested.
Out your model aside for a bit and treat it like an exercise for you.
You must be bored looking for back pats and stuff for digs, surely.
 
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Lots of stuff that's in our faces.
Try and put your mind to it.
It requires you to actually dig deeper so I don't waste my time explaining stuff that will be just laughed at.
Offer something if you're interested.
Out your model aside for a bit and treat it like an exercise for you.
You must be bored looking for back pats and stuff for digs, surely.
So .... nothing.
 
I have to challenge. It would be a sorry world if people just believed everything without proof.

You're not challenging (in either sense of the word, although you're clearly challenged). You're the one spreading lies and misinformation.

You're right that the world would be a sorry place if everyone believed everything without proof, however that does beg the question "why do you deny all the proof that the world is a globe and instead believe it isn't a globe despite having no proof?"
 
Lots of stuff that's in our faces.
Try and put your mind to it.
It requires you to actually dig deeper so I don't waste my time explaining stuff that will be just laughed at.
Offer something if you're interested.
Out your model aside for a bit and treat it like an exercise for you.
You must be bored looking for back pats and stuff for digs, surely.
"I can't come up with anything, so now I demand that you prove my point for me."
 
You're not challenging (in either sense of the word, although you're clearly challenged). You're the one spreading lies and misinformation.

You're right that the world would be a sorry place if everyone believed everything without proof, however that does beg the question "why do you deny all the proof that the world is a globe and instead believe it isn't a globe despite having no proof?"
Let's have some honesty from you.
Offer me some proof for your spinning globe without appealing to authority.
Exactly. The stars 'appear' to move but the reality is.... WE DO, cos we live on a spinning globe.
But you do not know this.
You have no proof if you are honest with yourself.

The points of light appear to move because that's what they're doing...not us moving on a sphere.
Your senses do not ever pick up movement of a spinning Earth but they do pick up movement of lights in the sky.
"I can't come up with anything, so now I demand that you prove my point for me."
Your demands will not be met by me. Meet them yourself.
 
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But you do not know this.
You have no proof if you are honest with yourself.

The points of light appear to move because that's what they're doing...not us moving on a sphere.
Your senses do not ever pick up movement of a spinning Earth but they do pick up movement of lights in the sky.

Your demands will not be met by me. Meet them yourself.
You are so utterly wrong and totally oblivious to it.
 
You are so utterly wrong and totally oblivious to it.
I wouldn't expect you to think any other way, as I wouldn't with the rest.

However, I think you are mistaken and the others about a spinning globe, so you can see how this works, right?

Naturally you feel you have the high ground. The higher pedestal, because you feel the comfort of the many and I absolutely understand that.
 
Let's have some honesty from you.
Offer me some proof for your spinning globe without appealing to authority.

But you do not know this.
You have no proof if you are honest with yourself.

The points of light appear to move because that's what they're doing...not us moving on a sphere.
Your senses do not ever pick up movement of a spinning Earth but they do pick up movement of lights in the sky.

Your demands will not be met by me. Meet them yourself.
From a man who constantly demands things from everyone on this thread. Asking people to explain time after time.

Na....I'm explaining nowt myself
 
There is no experiment.

I did suggest that if this dome is super reflective then we could reflect something off it ourselves. Light, sound, radar etc. If we can map the ocean floor we can map the dome with ease. I got some waffle saying that would not work. Super reflective for super carbon arc crystal projections, but not for anything man made that might disprove it. Convenient.
Yip and if its super reflective we would see features of the land and sea reflected
 
I wouldn't expect you to think any other way, as I wouldn't with the rest.

However, I think you are mistaken and the others about a spinning globe, so you can see how this works, right?

Naturally you feel you have the high ground. The higher pedestal, because you feel the comfort of the many and I absolutely understand that.
He thinks he knows better than everyone alive or who has lived. Of course he has the higher ground above the billions of us mortals.
 
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