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Bradaz1 said:
They still don't understand the difference between owning a share and owning the company. Time and time again they show how thick and ignorant they are with their whataboutery.

Its like working for Fred West and arguing that he was allowed to buy a sandwich from the co-op so he's clearly no that bad!
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They don’t even understand the concept of not owning shares anymore!
 
El Oso said:
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Shearer helpfully suggesting to beheddie that it would take a "mammoth effort" to keep them in the PL. He should know.
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We need to get onto Norwich and Burnley forums, better still directly to Dean Smith and Sean Dyche, telling them that NUFC see them as their easy passport to getting their season underway with their first wins of the season, so don’t be taken in by their patronising assumptions and make sure it doesn’t happen!
All they are talking about is winning these games to signal lift off so let’s hope these clubs don’t succumb to be their whipping boys….
 
Amazing they saying could have been 2 up at half time . Jesus I watched it only as I was deeing nowt and expected them to lose.

Not a clue where they get that from as all men behind ball then boot for striker to chase. It wasnt a pen as he was falling into Arsenal lad who simply had eyes on ball and was stronger.

Jonjer had a good strike and that was about it wheras Arsenal missed a sitter and basically pummeled them.
 
Still not over for them by a long way.
7 points to get out of relegation.
They have two easy games next.
They'll spend big in January.
Was it Palace that went 13 games without a win and still stayed up?
 
WillInSpain said:
Still not over for them by a long way.
7 points to get out of relegation.
They have two easy games next.
They'll spend big in January.
Was it Palace that went 13 games without a win and still stayed up?
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I wouldn't call them easy at all. You'd expect them to beat Norwich but they have 4 points from Smith's 2 games and Burnley, whatever form they're in, will always make it difficult.

They may well spend big in January but now everyone knowa they've got a few quid and are desperate will mean £20m footballers will suddenly become £50m ones and players will want huge salary increases to join a side at serious risk of relegation.

Its definitely not over with nearly 2/3s of the season left but its going to be very hard for yhem
 
Hendonbeach said:
You can Ridicule me has me much has you want but you never answer the question did he do a good job at Bournemouth?
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Overall he did a great job at Bournemouth. Sometimes (in fact, most of the time) a club that rises does so not just because of the manager but because the whole set up is right. That's not to say he doesn't deserve credit, of course he does, but he wouldn't have done the same had he gone to hartlepool, it wasn't all down to him

So now he's in a totally different scenario, with different people involved, different aspirations, he hasn't got time to build a squad and he's operating at a level where, last time, the squad he had helped put together (expensively) were relegated and conceded goals for fun.

Don't think anyone's saying he's an awful manager, you don't bring a team all the way through without having some ability, but he's not a guarantee of success at PL level and is arguably no better than Bruce at this level. It's just not the kind of appointment you'd expect given the new owners, and the mags falling over themselves to pretend they aren't a bit disappointed about it is hilarious. I mean one saying she might cry when she sees him in the dugout ffs, he'd have taken the job under Ashley, it's not some previously unreachable dream being realised to appoint Eddie Howe.

The other concern I'd have is because I'd always want a manager who has done a good job at at least a couple of clubs. Shows it wasn't just a case of right place, right time at one. Howe get much has it to prove on that front after Burnley. For all he was good at Bournemouth there seems to be a misconception that they're a tiny little club and he brought them up like a non league side on an fa cup run. They were well backed financially, very well backed, and at the PL he ultimately failed
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Overall he did a great job at Bournemouth. Sometimes (in fact, most of the time) a club that rises does so not just because of the manager but because the whole set up is right. That's not to say he doesn't deserve credit, of course he does, but he wouldn't have done the same had he gone to hartlepool, it wasn't all down to him

So now he's in a totally different scenario, with different people involved, different aspirations, he hasn't got time to build a squad and he's operating at a level where, last time, the squad he had helped put together (expensively) were relegated and conceded goals for fun.

Don't think anyone's saying he's an awful manager, you don't bring a team all the way through without having some ability, but he's not a guarantee of success at PL level and is arguably no better than Bruce at this level. It's just not the kind of appointment you'd expect given the new owners, and the mags falling over themselves to pretend they aren't a bit disappointed about it is hilarious. I mean one saying she might cry when she sees him in the dugout ffs, he'd have taken the job under Ashley, it's not some previously unreachable dream being realised to appoint Eddie Howe.

The other concern I'd have is because I'd always want a manager who has done a good job at at least a couple of clubs. Shows it wasn't just a case of right place, right time at one. Howe get much has it to prove on that front after Burnley. For all he was good at Bournemouth there seems to be a misconception that they're a tiny little club and he brought them up like a non league side on an fa cup run. They were well backed financially, very well backed, and at the PL he ultimately failed
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The new Alan Curbishly.
 
WillInSpain said:
After that they have Liecester away, then Liverpool, Man City, Man U.

I should have said easier compared to the games after that. On current form they'll not be in double figures by Christmas.
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They'll class losing 2-0 to those 4 as a "sign of huge improvement under Howe, as Bruce would definitley have had them concede 5 or 6". Also when Beheaddie inevitably approaches those games defensively it will be down to his "tactical awareness",
 
Redandwhitedust said:
They'll class losing 2-0 to those 4 as a "sign of huge improvement under Howe, as Bruce would definitley have had them concede 5 or 6". Also when Beheaddie inevitably approaches those games defensively it will be down to his "tactical awareness",
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aye, can remember when bruces fust or second game they won at spurs and it was all down to rafa:D
 
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