Put a flat earthier into space

[payne]

So you have a 'fact' probably from a flat earther bible, have no idea why people say we spin at 1000mph, don't have a clue where the figure comes from or if it applies to all of the earth, but thing whoa, that sounds fast, can't be possible and will not look further?

Seems pretty much the conspiracy theorist mindset.

Why can't you scale down something the size of the earth? That is what scale is for.

So now the things you doubt include right angles, tangents and the idea of scale. Wow. This conspiracy runs deeper and deeper.

It makes perfect sense to me. He thinks there's some some global cover up which has been going on for thousands of years for no apparent reason so therefore has to think everything mainstream is part of it. Only batshit crazy fringe conspiracy stuff remains to explain the world. totally logical, man.

 

[chelt_mackem]

everyone is capable of watching ships disappear over the horizon from the bottom up.

You might as well just make a huge sign that says "I don't understand" because that's all you're effectively saying here.


No matter how many times people tell you they have.


While I cant offer any proof that you didn't look at 90% of it, you didn't look at 90% of it. Rub your chin some more.

I showed you clearly and without "appeals to authority" how the visible stars prove we are on a rotating globe. It's not difficult, you just don't want it to be true or fail to understand it. It remains true in either case.

Several people on here have even added their own experiences of seeing the northern and southern constellations (themselves both different and not reflections) move in opposite directions from each hemisphere, strangely he just ignores those inconvenient accounts that kill the flat/cell Earth stone dead.

 

[payne]

Several people on here have even added their own experiences of seeing the northern and southern constellations (themselves both different and not reflections) move in opposite directions from each hemisphere, strangely he just ignores those inconvenient accounts that kill the flat/cell Earth stone dead.

he doesn't say it directly but basically calls them liars or fools

 

[DaveH]

Several people on here have even added their own experiences of seeing the northern and southern constellations (themselves both different and not reflections) move in opposite directions from each hemisphere, strangely he just ignores those inconvenient accounts that kill the flat/cell Earth stone dead.

I think way back he claimed they were reflections of the ‘so called northern hemisphere stars’. Despite being completely different. Same as the moon reflection of the sun is completely different - before you consider a solar eclipse where the sun reflects back on itself to cancel each other out. Never did manage to explain that one or show how self-cancelling light is possible.

Reading the last few weeks, he is stuck in a loop but sounding very dejected, trying to cling onto his fantasy world.

I pity him, it is really not a good state for anyone to be in.

 

[What A Waster]

I think way back he claimed they were reflections of the ‘so called northern hemisphere stars’. Despite being completely different. Same as the moon reflection of the sun is completely different - before you consider a solar eclipse where the sun reflects back on itself to cancel each other out. Never did manage to explain that one or show how self-cancelling light is possible.

Reading the last few weeks, he is stuck in a loop but sounding very dejected, trying to cling onto his fantasy world.

I pity him, it is really not a good state for anyone to be in.

Mad when you can see the sun and moon at the same time as well, usually early mornings one south east in the sky and low, then the moon at south west but high. Dunno how the reflection is sometimes a crescent (waxing or waning) or sometimes doesn't appear at the start of the cycle.
This reflective concave frozen hydrogen mirror is very impressive and defies all laws of land based physics

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Nukehasslefan said:
If points of light move over and around Earth then of course you will see them lower and higher in the sky as they move over the dome.

Not sure what you're trying to say on this. You're not going to see light through a mountain if you're stood behind the mountain and blocking off that light.

Or am I missing what you're trying to say?

You're totally missing it.
If I go out somewhere where its lovely and dark, exposed and clear skies with say a mountain behind me.
As i look forward I will still see stars in line with my level vision line, how do those reflections from the generator get in front of me when the mountain behind me should block that light.
And if I go to the other side I can do the same...

Because the projection is from the centre and is high on the dome.

1.Use SketchUp to draw a circle with the diameter of the Earth.
2. Zoom in so far that you can add an object 2 metres tall on its circumference.
3. Note how straight that curve looks now.
4.Check you actually understand what drawing something to scale means.

How about you do it.
You've seen my sketch so you draw it to the scale you think and let's see what we can make out.

But yet your curvature looks pronounced on your map but doesn't work to scale.
Still no section drawing to try and show us what you mean.

It looks pronounced because I was asked to show what it was like.
I said it's not to scale and I also said why it wasn't to scale. Why? Because you wouldn't see the set up.

If you think you can draw it to scale and actually show something then be my guest.
It's not like we're drawing a car at 1/10 the scale.

Anyway feel free to draw what you think it would look like and then try and explain what you see when you do it to a scale that suits.

If you can't comprehend stuff it doesn't make it a lie.

I agree. That's why I say those who believe in a spinning globe due to life schooling are not lying. I believed in it at one time for long enough and I didn't think I was lying by repeating it. I just accept that I was schooled into that narrative and basically blindly followed it.

It appears the cult appealed to you because you couldn't comprehend stuff and this seemed more reasonable.

And you're more than entitled to that opinion. Why would you need to think anything different. The cult you became embroiled in was similar because it seemed more reasonable to you and still does. Why? Mass peer pressure to keep that mind and a safety net of following official lines. We all do it for almost everything.

Now fully brainwashed everything must be rejected.

I would say we're all brainwashed to all hell to be fair. Me included.
As for everything being rejected in the minds of people like yourself when dealing with people like me. It's natural you'd think that.
I'm questioning set narratives and I'm questioning Earth as part of those. By doing that I'm immediately placed into a cult and immediately deemed a flat Earth retard and the argument comes to the fore that I reject everything...etc.....etc.....etc.

If proof is offered then rejection is not an issue.
If it's not offered then rejection is my mindset until proof is offered.

However there's lots of stuff that I accept that does not come with proof. By accepting it does not mean I believe it. It just means it's not high on my questioning list.

Yip I don't understand the inner workings of the brain but it doesn't mean the brain doesn't do what it does.

Exactly, so you accept it does. I do.

If you hear something you don’t like, just say something else because that must be true.

Or question it.

everyone is capable of watching ships disappear over the horizon from the bottom up.

No.
Everyone is capable of watching ships disappear due to light not reflecting back to the eye over distance which fades from bottom up just like the sun reflection does.

You might as well just make a huge sign that says "I don't understand" because that's all you're effectively saying here.

I could level this at you but where does this get us?

I showed you clearly and without "appeals to authority" how the visible stars prove we are on a rotating globe.

No, you didn't. You assume it because that's the narrative you've been given.

It's not difficult, you just don't want it to be true or fail to understand it. It remains true in either case.

I'd love the truth. Unfortunately I do not believe we're given anything like it where Earth is concerned and a lot within it, with higher up people?...etc..

So you have a 'fact' probably from a flat earther bible

No bible needed.

, have no idea why people say we spin at 1000mph,

I have a very goood idea why people say we do. I just don't believe it.

don't have a clue where the figure comes from or if it applies to all of the earth, but thing whoa, that sounds fast, can't be possible and will not look further?

They're your words because you think this is a better way to argue. It gains you nothing.

Seems pretty much the conspiracy theorist mindset.

I'd say questioning but naturally it doesn't conform to mainstream ideals and so, as we know, it becomes a conspiracy theory.

Why can't you scale down something the size of the earth? That is what scale is for.

I could but you would see nothing to discern what it is I'm putting forward. You know this.
If you think it would then by all means do a sketch of your own to the scale you think will show what I'm talking about.

So now the things you doubt include right angles

Nope. I merely asked how you get one. A reference point in order to show one.
I'm well aware of why a circle on a piece of paper can show a potential but how accurate can you get to a right angle?

, tangents and the idea of scale. Wow.

Wow indeed.

This conspiracy runs deeper and deeper.

Wow.

Several people on here have even added their own experiences of seeing the northern and southern constellations (themselves both different and not reflections) move in opposite directions from each hemisphere, strangely he just ignores those inconvenient accounts that kill the flat/cell Earth stone dead.

Experiences of looking up at the sky to see points of moving light?
That proves nothing about a spinning globe.

Mad when you can see the sun and moon at the same time as well, usually early mornings one south east in the sky and low, then the moon at south west but high. Dunno how the reflection is sometimes a crescent (waxing or waning) or sometimes doesn't appear at the start of the cycle.
This reflective concave frozen hydrogen mirror is very impressive and defies all laws of land based physics

The high and low should give you a clue.

 

[DPTT]

The high and low should give you a clue.

How can the light/energy from your central hole reflect into two different places and make one circle look like the sun and the other like the moon

 

[Nukehasslefan]

How can the light/energy from your central hole reflect into two different places and make one circle look like the sun and the other like the moon

Because one point of light is the reflection of what the other reflection shows.
An example.
If you shone your torch at a mirror and that mirror angled that reflection over to another mirror, you would see that point of light.

The dome is a perfect mirror effect.

 

[DPTT]

Because one point of light is the reflection of what the other reflection shows.
An example.
If you shone your torch at a mirror and that mirror angled that reflection over to another mirror, you would see that point of light.

The dome is a perfect mirror effect.

So how does it reflect twice (presuming that’s what you are saying)

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So how does it reflect twice (presuming that’s what you are saying)

I've just explained.
Can you elaborate further?

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Because one point of light is the reflection of what the other reflection shows.
An example.
If you shone your torch at a mirror and that mirror angled that reflection over to another mirror, you would see that point of light.

The dome is a perfect mirror effect.

Even you don't believe this shit.
The Moon is a reflection of the Sun, which is a reflection of the crystal projector? Magic causes the Moons phases and stupid people just imaging eclipses along with the seasons and all the planets? You know it's bollocks but have gone too far to back out.

 

[DPTT]

I've just explained.
Can you elaborate further?

Not really as am confused matey

The energy source emits from the ground and hits the dome
It reflects at an angle to represent the sun
Where and how does the second reflection come from to show the moon

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Even you don't believe this shit.

I believe it is a possibility.

The Moon is a reflection of the Sun

Potentially, yes.

, which is a reflection of the crystal projector?

A reflection from it, yes.

Magic causes the Moons phases and stupid people just imaging eclipses along with the seasons and all the planets?

Nope, not magic, just inability for waves to reach parts to reflect from the centre.

You know it's bollocks but have gone too far to back out.

I'll tell you what I do know is horlicks. It's a global spinning Earth with fiery suns in a space vacuum.

Not really as am confused matey

The energy source emits from the ground and hits the dome
It reflects at an angle to represent the sun
Where and how does the second reflection come from to show the moon

The other reflection you see as the sun.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

How about you do it.
You've seen my sketch so you draw it to the scale you think and let's see what we can make out.

I've done it, but to understand and believe it you have to do it for yourself right?

I believe it is a possibility.

Potentially, yes.

A reflection from it, yes.


Nope, not magic, just inability for waves to reach parts to reflect from the centre.

I'll tell you what I do know is horlicks. It's a global spinning Earth with fiery suns in a space vacuum.

So how can we see both Moon and Sun in the sky at the same time and how does the Moon sometimes pass in front of the Sun if it's just a reflection of the Sun?

 

[DPTT]

I believe it is a possibility.

Potentially, yes.

A reflection from it, yes.


Nope, not magic, just inability for waves to reach parts to reflect from the centre.

I'll tell you what I do know is horlicks. It's a global spinning Earth with fiery suns in a space vacuum.

The other reflection you see as the sun.

But how does it reflect twice

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

But how does it reflect twice

Maybe it just tries really hard.

 

[Kevj]

Maybe it just tries really hard.

Witchcraft and trickery. I’m off to burn a virgin to ensure a good crop next year.

 

[chelt_mackem]

Experiences of looking up at the sky to see points of moving light?
That proves nothing about a spinning globe.

When the points of light/stars appear to rotate at exactly the same speeds, anti-clockwise around the north celestial pole and clockwise around the south celestial pole, it proves the shape of the globe and its rotation absolutely.

Observable, testable, repeatable and kills your model stone dead.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I've done it, but to understand and believe it you have to do it for yourself right?

So how can we see both Moon and Sun in the sky at the same time and how does the Moon sometimes pass in front of the Sun if it's just a reflection of the Sun?

You see the sun and moon in the sky at the same time because they are direct reflections when angles are correct.
As for the moon passing in front of the sun, it's what happens in the centre in terms of angling out the reflection from the dome that cuts out the wavelength.

When the points of light/stars appear to rotate at exactly the same speeds, anti-clockwise around the north celestial pole and clockwise around the south celestial pole, it proves the shape of the globe and its rotation absolutely.

Observable, testable, repeatable and kills your model stone dead.

No. It proves mirrored images.

 

[chelt_mackem]

You see the sun and moon in the sky at the same time because they are direct reflections when angles are correct.
As for the moon passing in front of the sun, it's what happens in the centre in terms of angling out the reflection from the dome that cuts out the wavelength.