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Racism at Yorkshire CCC

Being in a cricket changing room can be more tough than any other sport. You spend more time with team mates and in my opinion there seems be be an open book for so called ‘banter’. Does bullying translate to comments about sexual orientation? Players with physical disformaties? Players with speech impediments? People with mental health challenges? Some players do dominate and basically take the piss out of others. This so called ‘banter’ can leave its mark on the recipient.
There's definitely something in that. Can't think of any other sport where you might have to spend the entire day in a room with people who you might be intimidated by. Certainly leaves inexperienced or minority groups open to bullying from the established group, and it's easy to see how the pack mentality could cross the line.
 

Not a cricket fan at all ....but this is shocking and staggering ....stuff like elephant washers and other racist terms from key England internationals. Cricket is known as the gentleman's game ,god knows how this news has gone down in cricket strangleholds such as India and Pakistan

And the players apart from Hoggard as far as I can see not taking full responsibility for their actions . Grow some balls ,apologise and admit what you said .By the way yorkshires new chairman lord Patel comes out of this sorry charade with a lot of credit as do Adil Rashid and rafiq himself .They have stood up to be counted

Cricket in the gutter...
Hoggard has timed his apology really well (ie just before they set out this statement) and got off fairly light it seems, given his comments were some of the very worst.
 
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Can parliament summon people to give testimonies? Or, alternatively, could this go to court? Because we're at a deadlock at this stage. His word vs Rafiq's.
Some thing to clear up...

The witness statement we are digesting is not a submission of evidence to Parliament per se. It is the submission of evidence for his employment tribunal, which Rafiq has voluntary submitted to Parliament to support his claims in oral evidence to the DCMS select committee and which that committee has taken the highly unusual (I worked in Parliament for six years) of publishing in full in advance today, on the select committee website. Usually they would wait till they'd gathered all the evidence then publish it all collectively, alongside their report. Their report is yet to come of course - so that will have the suits in the ECB shaking, as recommendations will be incoming. They will probably steer clear from Yorkshire, other than to say whether they agree with the institutional racism allegation, because Yorkshire are subject to legal proceedings anyway. Plus Parliament's job is to go after regulators and reform them; to make suggestions as to what should happen to prevent it occurring again.

The witness statement is therefore already part of a legal process - it is a submission to an employment tribunal, which is a court. Rafiq is already by definition happy to stand on them in court, as part of his tribunal v YCCC.

Can parties bring legal proceedings against Rafiq? No. No proceedings are allowed to be given against evidence submitted to Parliament under parliamentary privilege rules. He's protected. However, given the high profile nature of the case, I would be amazed if Parliament has been gung ho about allowing DCMS to just publish that without lawyers pouring over it as so many very high profile people are named that if it were wrong, then the whole constitutional idea of parliamentary privilege would be rightly called into question. And that would, constitutionally, be a big deal.

If those claims are repeated outside or Parliament as facts not allegations, they can be viewed and contested as libellous. Hence why links of that, other than the Parliament one which is protected, aren't being hosted anymore by media organisations - unless I've missed it, they've largely been taken down.

But, I mean, if he's submitting that to an employment tribunal, he's probably got all sorts of receipts. That's a type court, he can have it thrown out and - I think (I know Parliament, I'm not a lawyer) - probably be then sued? I think it's pretty likely he's going to win, personally in his case v YCCC specifically.

To answer the question: Parliament does summon people to give evidence to select committees, but they don't have a legal power to do so like they do in the US, for example. You can't be forced to do it. In practice, nearly every one does - even Rupert Murdoch showed up for a four hour shit-kicking on phone hacking. Zuckerberg dodged it once, I think - not many do.
 
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He could have had tens of people removed from their jobs if he'd wanted. Instead he's actually tried to protect some people who don't deserve protection. Yet still people on social media are questioning his motives and trying to discredit him :cry:
Root and Hoggard can count themselves very lucky, along with who knows who that may have been spared a mention
 
Root and Hoggard can count themselves very lucky, along with who knows who that may have been spared a mention
Root is going to get absolutely pelted with this for the next three months by the Aussie media tbf.

I personally think that, when the dust settles, the question of whether he can lead England is opened up. But then again: Parliament may yet suggest people need to be called in to run the ECB. Perhaps even civil servants.
 
Root and Hoggard can count themselves very lucky, along with who knows who that may have been spared a mention

Gutted when I read about Hoggards comments. The extremity of them combined with the fact he was a hero growing up.

More disappointed than anything with Root. No doubt in my mind that he's not racist. But he's always came across as someone I thought would stand up to inequality
 
Root and Hoggard can count themselves very lucky, along with who knows who that may have been spared a mention

I’ve said it before, there’ll be hundreds or cricketers up and down the country (and probably across the world) who’ll be sweating wondering if their name is the next one that is mentioned as either being in a leader or participant in this abuse - past and present players as well.

Some who have been named (or alluded to), may have actually got away with it for longer had Yorkshire not been so utterly shite and tried to sweep it all under the carpet.
 
He could have had tens of people removed from their jobs if he'd wanted. Instead he's actually tried to protect some people who don't deserve protection. Yet still people on social media are questioning his motives and trying to discredit him :cry:
I’d have been tempted to go scortched earth on the whole thing tbh.
 
Having listened to what Rafiq said this morning, and the way he said it, I absolutely believe him

I don’t know enough about Bresnan
Yep. Far easier to believe the bloke who sat there and told the story rather than anyone happy to hide behind the inaction of YCCC then choose to dismiss what's been said via a faceless social media post / newspaper article.
 
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