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Nukehasslefan said:
Then I'm sure they'll pay the penalty for it.
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So you’d turn a blind

Nukehasslefan said:
I think they'll also pay the penalty.

Also turn a blind eye
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Nukehasslefan said:
No that still wouldn't be ok with me but I would still be a Newcastle fan who would then expect the government to ensure the owners are rid of
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Nukehasslefan said:
So ok with you then as you only support Newcastle and not the people who pays the bills
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Nukehasslefan said:
I agree it is hypocritical.

I absolutely disagree with this but if you want to go back down the rabbit hole we can work out who lumps into this category of thought. I'd say most and I don't mean just Newcastle fans or people..

Nahhh. I'm simply arguing one corner of a bigger argument that includes most and only comes down to arguments over the morals of small to larger percentages of complicity. Back down the rabbit hole.

I embrace Newcastle United which is in Newcastle. That's it.
I embrace Newcastle United fans.

It doesn't change it.

If debating is trolling then fair enough. If coming to a forum of a rival is not welcome then something needs to be done.
Are you happy to just have Sunderland fans debating?


I'm not justifying anything of the sort.


I can scream from a rooftop and type out a few letters or make a banner. Do you think I'll make a difference to anything?


And that'll get rid of the owners...right?
Is there anywhere in this country...not just football that has owners of countries abusing human rights and being barbaric?
Or is it just Newcastle United the unlucky club that managed to attract a regime?

If there are others then shouldn't the entire country and government simply say we don't want them part of our country?
If fairness is all around then I'd have no issues with it.

No.
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I’m not even gunna read the response. I tired to help buddy. Think your probs beyond it.

Me and a lot of other good peeps have tried to explain to you how it looks from the outside in and the longer they run your club the more the blood spilt by their actions will taint yours.

Over the coming months and years your gunna hear people from all walks of life. Football fans of teams of all shapes and sizes, social activists, people whose lives have been torn apart by the actions of your new owners, journalist defending free press and many many more. They will all have the same fair and valid arguments, they will all question your lack of action, how you can stomach someone like that being associated to an institution so important to your self-identify.

You will harden your arguments, repeat the same shit over and over again entrenching you’re position. You will be judged more and more and if you aren’t already will become one of the most hated football clubs of all time. The best you can hope for is a struggle this season, relegation and a hope that somehow that clicks you all into bedsheet painting mode and they get board and leave, allowing you to try to rebuild a horrifically tarnished reputation. To me success build on blood money is the least desirable root.

I’ll leave you with misquote by JFK;

“All it takes for the triumph of evil is good people to do nothing”
 
Nukehasslefan said:
What as proof of a person's identity?
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Sweets.

Your self appointed reverand and spokesperson Steve Wraith - close friend of the Krays and bender squad - is claiming a 'women' named Kate Stewart on twitter is not an associate, tied to the kidnap, murder and dismemberment of of a journalist as named in court documents, but is indeed a real woman and his evidence is a photo of a kit kat zebra.

So I'm wondering if you had any thoughts on why anyone, such as Wraith and his disciples, might think this would indeed prove beyond any reasonable doubt her/his indentity particularly as you now, after quite a lot of huffing and puffing, agree confectionary isn't an acceptable form of ID or indeed proves the existence of any specific individual.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
It's not a case of, I must because; it's a case of, I am a Newcastle fan and supporter, regardless.

It's about anyone who supports the PIF no matter how small and no matter the argument for reasons other than Newcastle.
If you have nothing to do with anything the PIF are part of then your morals may b e sound, assuming you don;t support something else that offer bad things to their people in whatever countries.
Can you categorically say you don't? If not you're basically a saint and if so,...well, do I need to spell it out?

Only time would tell on whether this would be the case and if you stood by your stance then do you think all of Sunderland would follow you?

Nope. Just putting a few things into perspective.

This moral issue in itself needs debating because it's a mixed case with people who believe they have them until something they're involved in is deemed immoral and yet it'll be argued as not.
Subjective.

Ok let's think about this.
Do the people of different countries...in this case, Saudi Arabia believe certain atrocities are morally correct for them?
I can go on and on and on about morals of countries that don't fit our ways.
So you still think they're not subjective?
The list is almost endless with arguments about people with so called morals who then have some kind of influence in other immoral stuff.


We are in the case of the argument that was levied against Newcastle fans being that. It then applies to all. Or it doesn't and it was said merely to incite argument.

Nobody's arguing morals not being important. They are massively important but are so subjective. One persons morals are another persons immorality.
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You're really floundering with all this aren't you?

You can't excuse murder, torture and stonings on a bit of morality.

You really need to get off the internet and think about what you're posting.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Spectacular isn't it 😂
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Not only are they being hoodeinked on the grandest scale seen since National Socialism, thry're inventing pretend friends.

Wasn't it Goebbels who said the lies you make have to be big enough for people to believe it?

Utterly mental yet he's still claiming he's met 'her' and picturing himself eating takeaways with random Saudi gadgies.
 
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Father Jack Hackett said:
Howld on, so American Intelligence agencies say Kate Stewart is a fake account and actually one of Bin Salmans Henchmen. Steve Wraith is then posting a picture of a Kit Kat he claims she gave him when she came to an event he was hosting and havung conversations with 'her' on public forums?

Seriously man, what the fuck is going on?
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He’s a fantasist.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
Bot only are they being hoodeinked on the grandest scale seen since National Socialism, thry're inventing pretend friends.

Wasn't it Goebbels who said the lies you make have to be big enough for people to believe it?

Utterly mental yet he's still claiming he's met 'her' and picturing himself eating takeaways with randon Saudi gadgies.
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We are only a few weeks into their tenure as well and it's already a total circus.
 
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