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ALL NUFC and Sportwashing stuff in here. (Threads will be merged)

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OzzyMac said:
In what way?

League 1 under 23's coach - Check
Out of work manager who's last gig saw his former club relegated - check
Saying the right words with no substance - check

Have i missed anything? Please feel free to elaborate on how things have improved for you?
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Managing/coaching staff:
Eddie Howe has a win percentage of 41.83%
Steve Bruce has a win percentage of 37.60%

Investment:
“We will inject our own money into the January transfer window. We are committed to investing in this club. We do not need sponsorship revenue to do that. We’ve already invested £38million [of equity] last week and we’ll invest whatever we need to enter into the transfer window. So we’re not stupid.” -Amanda Staveley


Communication:
Can you give an example of this no substantive speak? The new owners have communicated with the fans, staff and media through public appearances, interviews and statements more so than the previous owner, which was my point.
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There's a question mark on the end so...
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And before that question mark was a statement, a statement that could be perceived as derogatory so...
 
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Mr Clarko said:
Managing/coaching staff:
Eddie Howe has a win percentage of 41.83%
Steve Bruce has a win percentage of 37.60%

Investment:
“We will inject our own money into the January transfer window. We are committed to investing in this club. We do not need sponsorship revenue to do that. We’ve already invested £38million [of equity] last week and we’ll invest whatever we need to enter into the transfer window. So we’re not stupid.” -Amanda Staveley


Communication:
Can you give an example of this no substantive speak? The new owners have communicated with the fans, staff and media through public appearances, interviews and statements more so than the previous owner, which was my point.

And before that question mark was a statement, a statement that could be perceived as derogatory so...
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They are honestly f***ing loopy, just seriously deranged
Wearson said:
St Pauli have an anti nazi stance and the club badge is used as a bit of an emblem to show such a leaning.
I was not saying that his views carry more or less weight, but commending the fact that he chose to speak out against the owners of the football team that his paying audience clearly supported. The opposite of the sports washing that has been the topic on this thread recently.

The gig had all the old hits plus stuff from their latest covers album, it was excellent!
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what is the latest album called?
 
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Mr Clarko said:
Managing/coaching staff:
Eddie Howe has a win percentage of 41.83%
Steve Bruce has a win percentage of 37.60%

Investment:
“We will inject our own money into the January transfer window. We are committed to investing in this club. We do not need sponsorship revenue to do that. We’ve already invested £38million [of equity] last week and we’ll invest whatever we need to enter into the transfer window. So we’re not stupid.” -Amanda Staveley


Communication:
Can you give an example of this no substantive speak? The new owners have communicated with the fans, staff and media through public appearances, interviews and statements more so than the previous owner, which was my point.

And before that question mark was a statement, a statement that could be perceived as derogatory so...
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Can you show your workings on the 41.83% figure?
 
jlaws said:
Can you show your workings on the 41.83% figure?
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I used Wikipedia as the source of my information as the data from my usual source (transfermakt) was incomplete for Bruce.

Eddie Howe record per Wikipedia:
Played: 545W: 228D: 114L: 203%: 41.83
 
jlaws said:
In my view only prem results are relevant or top league if a foreign manager.
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Indeed. IMO how someone did in league 1 or 2 is irrelevant in the prem.
Prem only.
Howe has won 56/190 29.5%
Bruce has won 133/476 27.9%
To put that in context, If Howe maintains his % then by the time he reaches Bruce's 476 games he will have won 140 of them.
 
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Norton said:
Indeed. IMO how someone did in league 1 or 2 is irrelevant in the prem.
Prem only.
Howe has won 56/190 29.5%
Bruce has won 133/476 27.9%
To put that in context, If Howe maintains his % then by the time he reaches Bruce's 476 games he will have won 140 of them.
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Why? Only using the PL records would ignore ~52.40% of Bruce's career and ~65.14% of Howe's career...
 
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Mr Clarko said:
Why? Only using the PL records would ignore ~52.40% of Bruce's career and ~65.14% of Howe's career...
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As I have all the manager data to hand here is EH's Prem record. His L2/L1/Champ record is not relevant when determining how he fairs against Prem teams. His win rate is 29.47% and his draw rate is 22.63%. If he reproduces these averages with a team without a win, who concede twice as many as they score then they will get 35 points and likely go down. It is laughable to suggest he can produce a win rate of 41.83%. If you really think that is the case put a tenner on each game as he would be expected to win 11 of them. In order to achieve 40 points EH needs to perform at a higher rate than he has ever done before in the Prem.

SeasonPEH-WEH-DEH-LEH-FEH-APointsEH Win ratioEH-Draw
2015-16381191845674228.95%23.68%
2016-173812101655674631.58%26.32%
2017-183811111645614428.95%28.95%
2018-19381361956704534.21%15.79%
2019-2038972240653423.68%18.42%
Average=11.28.618.248.26642.229.47%22.63%

For comparison Bruce averaged 30.26% in 18/19 &19/20 compared to EH's 28.95%. I am not saying Bruce is better but just because EH looks good in a V-neck, has typed his notes up into Word, is able to use Premiere Pro and gets to work at 630am doesn't make him the saviour.
 
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jlaws said:
As I have all the manager data to hand here is EH's Prem record. His L2/L1/Champ record is not relevant when determining how he fairs against Prem teams. His win rate is 29.47% and his draw rate is 22.63%. If he reproduces these averages with a team without a win, who concede twice as many as they score then they will get 35 points and likely go down. It is laughable to suggest he can produce a win rate of 41.83%. If you really think that is the case put a tenner on each game as he would be expected to win 11 of them.

SeasonPEH-WEH-DEH-LEH-FEH-APointsEH Win ratioEH-Draw
2015-16381191845674228.95%23.68%
2016-173812101655674631.58%26.32%
2017-183811111645614428.95%28.95%
2018-19381361956704534.21%15.79%
2019-2038972240653423.68%18.42%
Average=11.28.618.248.26642.229.47%22.63%

For comparison Bruce averaged 30.26% in 18/19 &19/20 compared to EH's 28.95%. I am not saying Bruce is better but just because EH looks good in a V-neck, has typed his notes up into Word, is able to use Premiere Pro and gets to work at 630am doesn't make him the saviour.
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ill say now no way will EH see out his full contract
 
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