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Urraca said:
I don't think you can say a guy who took Bournemouth up three divisions and kept them in the premier league for several seasons was bad at his job because he could only keep them there so long. Management is like politics, its rare that your career doesn't end in failure.

Some managers can improve on the job. Fergie was good at this - taking the tactical education he got from the Champions League to stay ahead of the the other Premier League Managers which worked brilliantly until the Premier League started importing managers from Champions League clubs.

Others deliberately take time away for self-improvement. Guardiola is the highest profile example of this but its the same principle if a local youth club coach decides to step back for a season to do a UEFA badge.
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Good, finally we are on common ground. "Eddie Howe was not good enough to keep a club in the Premier League, but after a year on the dole he will have thought about it a lot so maybe he can now" You may be right and I now see why he was the obvious choice for NUFC. If it doesn't work out and he can't get them promoted back up, I'm sure there will be lower league clubs fighting over him in two and a half years, that must be very comforting to him, he's definitely got a good head on his shoulders at the moment.
 

keybuk said:
The age of consent varies all over the world.

You do realise it's not only Saudi that have these rules.
What have you done about it? Have you packed in Sky.
If you had any parachute money left would you have told the club to forget it?
I didn't stop supporting my club when Ashley was in charge. I'm not going to stop now just because you are riddled with envy.
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Just to be clear you advocate the impregnating of 13 year olds by grown men as long as it is within the confines of a country that decrees it legal? You have zero moral issue with that?

a simple yes or no will suffice.
 
Urraca said:
Because I've never managed i don't really know difficult it is to keep up management skills outside of the doing. It would depend a lot on resources and the kind of manager you are.

Some managers don't coach and dedicated more time time to tactics and analysis of opposition which can be done outside of a club. Howe seems like the kind to coach as well and obviously you need the players for that but it was mentioned on the athletic newcastle pod he was doing some youth coaching at Liverpool during his time off.

Whatever he was doing at Bournemouth had ceased to work right at the end and it makes sense to me that he realised he needed some time away from the daily demands to figure out what he can do differently to change things up.
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They sacked him!
 
McMackem said:
Good, finally we are on common ground. "Eddie Howe was not good enough to keep a club in the Premier League, but after a year on the dole he will have thought about it a lot so maybe he can now" You may be right and I now see why he was the obvious choice for NUFC. If it doesn't work out and he can't get them promoted back up, I'm sure there will be lower league clubs fighting over him in two and a half years, that must be very comforting to him, he's definitely got a good head on his shoulders at the moment.
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If he was rotund and looked shite in a v neck he would be looking at league two jobs now.
 
keybuk said:
The age of consent varies all over the world.

You do realise it's not only Saudi that have these rules.
What have you done about it? Have you packed in Sky.
If you had any parachute money left would you have told the club to forget it?
I didn't stop supporting my club when Ashley was in charge. I'm not going to stop now just because you are riddled with envy.
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But but but sky
But but but Uber
But but but Disney
 
jlaws said:
Just to be clear you advocate the impregnating of 13 year olds by grown men as long as it is within the confines of a country that decrees it legal? You have zero moral issue with that?

a simple yes or no will suffice.
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The argument is brilliant. Should I change which company I watch my telly through or accept kids being raped? Hmmmmm tough one? Wow! Just wow!!!
 
UrbanFox said:
Had your new owners been a Branson or a Bezos, a Murdoch or a Musk then a bit of envy might have crept in. But there’s not a scintilla of envy for the owners you’ve got.And you know what? Even when they’ve left you, the history of them having been welcomed there will never be erased.
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Once it was just the stench of shite, now it’s that and decomposing bodies. That never goes away.
 
jlaws said:
Just to be clear you advocate the impregnating of 13 year olds by grown men as long as it is within the confines of a country that decrees it legal? You have zero moral issue with that?

a simple yes or no will suffice.
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How does pointing out that every country sets its own rules is advocating that. If it's legal then despite how much it might offend westerners it's legal.

BTW, you do know it's 13 in Japan, don't you? Or do you just have a problem with rules in Muslim countries?
 
keybuk said:
How does pointing out that every country sets its own rules is advocating that. If it's legal then despite how much it might offend westerners it's legal.

BTW, you do know it's 13 in Japan, don't you? Or do you just have a problem with rules in Muslim countries?
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So if its legal in any country its ok? You know far too much about age of consent around the world...worrying
 
keybuk said:
I'd much rather we didn't have these lot involved, but that's the situation we find ourselves in
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Sorry, I don't believe you.
Why keep trying to justify it then, with all this whataboutery?
Just embrace it. Stick a tea towel on your head and wave some cash in our faces, but don't pretend you don't want them if you do.
Ryhope_Scalliwag said:
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...after the crash.
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So Amanda Staveley is like princess Di now?
Fuck me sideways.
 
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kingmonkey said:
Sorry, I don't believe you.
Why keep trying to justify it then, with all this whataboutery?
Just embrace it. Stick a tea towel on your head and wave some cash in our faces, but don't pretend you don't want them if you do.
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Backtracking as they know they've been taken over by scumbags. That will drop them as soon as they get bored or spit their dummy out when they aren't getting their own way . Can see it a mile off and that's not sour grapes at all. Staveley is loving the attention but looks unbelievably uncomfortable every time you see her. Somethings just not ringing true here, I think the howe appointment proves it.
 
keybuk said:
How does pointing out that every country sets its own rules is advocating that. If it's legal then despite how much it might offend westerners it's legal.

BTW, you do know it's 13 in Japan, don't you? Or do you just have a problem with rules in Muslim countries?
Actually I didn’t but then again, unlike you, I am not an expert in which countries have the lowest age of sexual consent.
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Actually I don’t but then again, unlike you, I am not an expert on which countries have the lowest age of sexual consent.

How do you sleep at night with the worry that Northumbrias finest could knock on the door at any moment.

#wrongun
 
kingmonkey said:
Sorry, I don't believe you.
Why keep trying to justify it then, with all this whataboutery?
Just embrace it. Stick a tea towel on your head and wave some cash in our faces, but don't pretend you don't want them if you do.
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Well I don't believe you lot would have behaved any differently in the same circumstances or that we would not be relentlessly slagging you off for it.
 
Hendonite said:
Backtracking as they know they've been taken over by scumbags. That will drop them as soon as they get bored or spit their dummy out when they aren't getting their own way . Can see it a mile off and that's not sour grapes at all. Staveley is loving the attention but looks unbelievably uncomfortable every time you see her. Somethings just not ringing true here, I think the howe appointment proves it.
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Nobody knows how it will pan out, could go tits up for them, could go well. (Hope the former)
I've said before, but I've got more respect for the fans that admit they couldn't give a shite about what the Saudis get up to, they just want their money, than the ones that make out there is nothing they can do about it, which is obviously bollocks. They've spent years shouting at shops and painting their bedsheets when it suits them, but they all have a price, even that MP has sold her credibility.
keybuk said:
Well I don't believe you lot would have behaved any differently in the same circumstances or that we would not be relentlessly slagging you off for it.
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No chance would any other club have welcomed the Saudis with the outpouring of love witnessed on tyneside. It was minging.
Songs written about Amanda Staveley man, who does that shit?
Just embrace it, you don't have to justify anything to us.
Unless deep down you actually feel a bit uncomfortable about it.....
 
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jlaws said:
Actually I don’t but then again, unlike you, I am not an expert on which countries have the lowest age of sexual consent.

How do you sleep at night with the worry that Northumbrias finest could knock on the door at any moment.

#wrongun
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If you had bothered to google it then you wouldn't be talking out of your arse.
 
Roker Mackem said:
Honestly. And SSN even mentioned it specifically before cutting to Downeys question. He asked if the Human Rights issues were a consideration before taking the job. Howe: "Err Football.. only interested in the football"
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Just to be clear. You are saying it was Sky’s NUFC sycophant Keith Downey who asked the question, and not the Downey who runs a load of fish ‘n chip shops? ‘Cos to be honest I’d think it was more likey to be the cod lot geezer.
 
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