Put a flat earthier into space

[DaveH]

Such as?

I don't expect reality to conform to anything. Reality is what it is.
Unless you mean conform to what we are told to perceive as reality.

That depends on what's on offer as a fact against what's on offer as a theory or misinfo or disinfo.
I've said many times we are all scientists.
We are all looking for the truth of our reality from start to finish. Most of it will likely never be known by any specific person but following the mainstream book of so called truth's without question will only get a person as far as memory recollections and regurgitation of them, without knowing whether those absorptions have any real relevance.

Space being a classic example..


Not at all.

Which is all fine with the proof, as long as we can accept it as being a proof and not just a theory passed off as a proof.

You seem to be lumping every alternate thinker into one category. By all means offer that up as a serving but don't expect it to give you any credence.

You could bash the brains of someone who believes in a god. You can reason that they don't know there's a god and they're just following a set narrative whether early days or latter days.
You can argue that you are more right because nobody's seen the god they worship and you could ask them for proof of their god before you believe it, or you basically win the day.

Millions up on millions of people follow religion. Are they all wrong or do they even know what it is they're following other than the books and word of mouth they acclimatise to?

In a supposed space vacuum that offers nothing, how can anything use action and equal and opposite reaction?
How can anything create a wave?
We are told if you move in one direction is space you will carry on in that direction at the same velocity forever, unless something stops it. Or basically constant velocity.

Then we're told EM radiation comes in waves which are not one direction, so how can a wave happen in the so called space vacuum?
It couldn't.
The whole space stuff is utter nonsensical yet magical stuff is produced to supposedly alter the motion in this nothingness that has many things within it just floating about.

It's one hell of a story but the story is likely all fiction in terms of this. IMO.

So as predicted you dismiss 150 years of research in one unsubstantiated wave of the hand as a nice story, but you can’t actually say what was wrong with their experiments.

So alternate thinkers don’t just pluck ideas out of nowhere. Where do your ideas come from, such as em waves needing a medium? What have you got to back that up and why did you reach conclusion?

 

[payne]

So as predicted you dismiss 150 years of research in one unsubstantiated wave of the hand as a nice story, but you can’t actually say what was wrong with their experiments.

So alternate thinkers don’t just pluck ideas out of nowhere. Where do your ideas come from, such as em waves needing a medium? What have you got to back that up and why did you reach conclusion?

Personal experiments mate. Your words are just regurgitated out of a book parrot fashion.

 

[DaveH]

Personal experiments mate. Your words are just regurgitated out of a book parrot fashion.

Mysterious experiments of which the details are never shared. Then dismisses examples of where real scientists pick over each others experiments to improve, prove or disprove. He also accuses (though not recently) government sponsored scientists of concealing information. The whole conspiracy (actually up to 131 conspiracies from all the things being covered up here, not just the shape of the earth) relies on compartmentalisation - not sharing of any information, then refuses to reveal any details of how he reached his conclusions etc. Basically trying to compartmentalise his information.

Or cover up basic bullshit because we all know the ideas are based on nowt by sitting back and making up shit at random.

 

[What A Waster]

I feel that he's done that trick again. Quite impressive.
Getting stuck into how you can have heat and light without friction. Gets backed into a corner, doesn't post til the next day with absolutely massive waffle and diversion. The issue goes away until the next thing. Now he decides he's not gonna post any more because he's out of his depth on something else.

Imagine being that wrong about everything, but insisting you're right, but unable to argue your point at all.
Usually in a debate there's give and take, you might even accept some of your opponents points.
With this bloke he can't accept anything at all that's put to him because once he does, then if that is true so is this,this and so on. Pull on the small thread and eventually the whole jumper unravels. He's just point blank refusing to accept there's a single loose thread.

 

[payne]

I feel that he's done that trick again. Quite impressive.
Getting stuck into how you can have heat and light without friction. Gets backed into a corner, doesn't post til the next day with absolutely massive waffle and diversion. The issue goes away until the next thing. Now he decides he's not gonna post any more because he's out of his depth on something else.

Imagine being that wrong about everything, but insisting you're right, but unable to argue your point at all.
Usually in a debate there's give and take, you might even accept some of your opponents points.
With this bloke he can't accept anything at all that's put to him because once he does, then if that is true so is this,this and so on. Pull on the small thread and eventually the whole jumper unravels. He's just point blank refusing to accept there's a single loose thread.

Since his starting position is there's a massive global conspiracy it therefore follows he can't accept anything he's ever told. It's such a shame because reality is so amazing and fascinating. He's going to go through life believing in a total fiction....I suppose ignorance is bliss in his case.

 

[What A Waster]

Since his starting position is there's a massive global conspiracy it therefore follows he can't accept anything he's ever told. It's such a shame because reality is so amazing and fascinating. He's going to go through life believing in a total fiction....I suppose ignorance is bliss in his case.

Must be exhausting rejecting everything

 

[Gelan]

What happend to your invention you promised you'd post on here?

It's on hold as the generator is more important.

 

[babyimreadytoblow]

It's on hold as the generator is more important.

White lion bar

 

[fyl2u]

I've said many times we are all scientists.

No, we're not. You in particular are not. You don't even know what the word means.

We are all looking for the truth of our reality from start to finish. Most of it will likely never be known by any specific person but following the mainstream book of so called truth's without question will only get a person as far as memory recollections and regurgitation of them, without knowing whether those absorptions have any real relevance.

That's why we perform experiments to test those theories, with clear outlines as to what the expected results would be of those experiments if they are to prove or disprove any particular theory.

Space being a classic example..

...of something you don't understand.

Which is all fine with the proof, as long as we can accept it as being a proof and not just a theory passed off as a proof.

Which you don't. You put your fingers in your ears to proofs.

how can a wave happen in the so called space vacuum?
It couldn't.

You don't understand space AND you don't understand waves.

The whole space stuff is utter nonsensical yet magical stuff is produced to supposedly alter the motion in this nothingness that has many things within it just floating about.

Just because YOU don't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense, it just means you're either not intelligent enough to understand.

It's one hell of a story but the story is likely all fiction in terms of this. IMO.

You ridiculous cell theory with a carbon arc lamp surrounded by gold, silver and crystals, projecting the sum, moon, planets and stars onto a dome of hydrogen and helium ice that's a superfluid at the bottom but a solid above that (and thus staying up how?) is a hell of a story but is ABSOLUTE fiction that you don't even have any evidence of.

 

[payne]

it's really pissing me off seeing all these lies that work mathematically. flat earth all the way

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[fyl2u]

I can see this is clearly upsetting too many people so I'm going to stay out of this topic from now on.

And off he disappears to find a new hole to spout his drivel, where there may be fewer people to argue against him.

 

[payne]

No, we're not. You in particular are not. You don't even know what the word means.



That's why we perform experiments to test those theories, with clear outlines as to what the expected results would be of those experiments if they are to prove or disprove any particular theory.



...of something you don't understand.



Which you don't. You put your fingers in your ears to proofs.



You don't understand space AND you don't understand waves.



Just because YOU don't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense, it just means you're either not intelligent enough to understand.



You ridiculous cell theory with a carbon arc lamp surrounded by gold, silver and crystals, projecting the sum, moon, planets and stars onto a dome of hydrogen and helium ice that's a superfluid at the bottom but a solid above that (and thus staying up how?) is a hell of a story but is ABSOLUTE fiction that you don't even have any evidence of.

this 'we are all scientists' line is bastardised by people like him. Pertaining to normal folk this is the desire to find out stuff. Regarding conspiracy people this actually means anything goes and any opinion is as valid as fact.

 

[fyl2u]

Just because YOU don't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense, it just means you're either not intelligent enough to understand.

Forgot to end that sentence. Got distracted.

"...either not intelligent enough to understand or too obstinate."

 

[ajryan86]

Don't watch bbc2... they are in on it.

 

[nahwee]

I read somewhere that when Einstein produced his „Special Theory of Relativity“ it contained no citations, almost no maths and did’nt reference any work that had been done before.

It was said he had reached his conclusions by just thought, almost without help and ignoring the opinions of others.

Maybe we have a genius among us.

Or maybe Nukey read the same thing and thought „I could do that!“

 

[DaveH]

I feel that he's done that trick again. Quite impressive.
Getting stuck into how you can have heat and light without friction. Gets backed into a corner, doesn't post til the next day with absolutely massive waffle and diversion. The issue goes away until the next thing. Now he decides he's not gonna post any more because he's out of his depth on something else.

Imagine being that wrong about everything, but insisting you're right, but unable to argue your point at all.
Usually in a debate there's give and take, you might even accept some of your opponents points.
With this bloke he can't accept anything at all that's put to him because once he does, then if that is true so is this,this and so on. Pull on the small thread and eventually the whole jumper unravels. He's just point blank refusing to accept there's a single loose thread.

He rarely posts from late evening onwards, but does post from about 4am, so I don’t think he is hiding. I usually catch up on a few pages of made up physics over breakfast.

I read somewhere that when Einstein produced his „Special Theory of Relativity“ it contained no citations, almost no maths and did’nt reference any work that had been done before.

It was said he had reached his conclusions by just thought, almost without help and ignoring the opinions of others.

Maybe we have a genius among us.

Or maybe Nukey read the same thing and thought „I could do that!“

Crucially what Einstein produced was new and unique. Most of Nukehassles ideas are actually a rehash from 19th century science, which has since been disproved many many times.

 

[legend7]

And off he disappears to find a new hole to spout his drivel, where there may be fewer people to argue against him.

Probably sign up to some other forum now

 

[fyl2u]

Probably sign up to some other forum now

It's making me want to sign up to that Flat Earth forum

 

[Ambivalent Dave]

Is this it? Have we finally reached the end of the thread??

 

[legend7]

Is this it? Have we finally reached the end of the thread??

There is no end it curves up at the edges up to the dome.

It's making me want to sign up to that Flat Earth forum

I listened to some podcasts just to listen to how f*cking nuts they are. Think I put one on here.
Be great to find him again