Put a flat earthier into space

[payne]

Aye. Anything that goes against the grain will always be classed as baloney and I have absolutely no issue with that train of thought.

It's not about going against the grain. It's about having a reasonable alternative that you back up at any level

Many people go against the grain on many subjects, i.e. fringe political ideologies. You just throw shit at the wall with nothing to back it up.

You won't accept anything from anyone who are way more intelligent than you and actually work in specific fields day in day out. i.e many people in this thread.

You're as closed minded as they come.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Yes it is

superfluid
[ˌsuːpəˈfluːɪd]
NOUN
a liquid that flows without friction or viscosity.
"superfluids can flow ceaselessly without any energy loss"
ADJECTIVE
having the property of flowing without friction or viscosity.
"the sudden switch from liquid helium to superfluid helium"

Nothing can flow without friction.
Everything requires friction, no matter what it is.
Everything is always in motion whether it's clear and visual in terms of heavy machinery or down to the levels we cannot perceive. In my honest opinion.

 

[payne]

Nothing can flow without friction.
Everything requires friction, no matter what it is.
Everything is always in motion whether it's clear and visual in terms of heavy machinery or down to the levels we cannot perceive. In my honest opinion.

just repeat the same thing over and over and it will become true.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

When most of what they say can be disproven, then yes, absolutely.

Such as?

You can’t just pull ideas out of nowhere then expect reality to conform.

I don't expect reality to conform to anything. Reality is what it is.
Unless you mean conform to what we are told to perceive as reality.

That is the difference between alternate/free thinkers and scientists.

That depends on what's on offer as a fact against what's on offer as a theory or misinfo or disinfo.
I've said many times we are all scientists.
We are all looking for the truth of our reality from start to finish. Most of it will likely never be known by any specific person but following the mainstream book of so called truth's without question will only get a person as far as memory recollections and regurgitation of them, without knowing whether those absorptions have any real relevance.

Space being a classic example..

The first just makes up an idea, expects it to be true then claims they are special and above the brainwashed.

Not at all.

Scientists come up with a possible explanation for how something might work then prove or disprove that.

Which is all fine with the proof, as long as we can accept it as being a proof and not just a theory passed off as a proof.

Take migrating birds. As recently as victorian times, certain birds had been noted to have disappeared in winter, leading to unproven somewhat crazy ideas that they sleep at the bottom of ponds or turn into something completely different. There was no basis for this. Then ornithologists started to investigate. There was some speculation they flew to Africa, where the same sort or bird was seen in our winter but not in our summer. By charting sightings in southern Europe at migration times, ring marking and more recently GPS tracking it was proven beyond doubt they do migrate, even though it seems far fetched that some very small birds can fly all that way and back in a year.

The alternate thinkers are still at the bottom of ponds level. Yes it is an explanation but with no basis and ultimately completely wrong.

You seem to be lumping every alternate thinker into one category. By all means offer that up as a serving but don't expect it to give you any credence.

You could bash the brains of someone who believes in a god. You can reason that they don't know there's a god and they're just following a set narrative whether early days or latter days.
You can argue that you are more right because nobody's seen the god they worship and you could ask them for proof of their god before you believe it, or you basically win the day.

Millions up on millions of people follow religion. Are they all wrong or do they even know what it is they're following other than the books and word of mouth they acclimatise to?

A NASA page of lies:

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More lies here:

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Though look at the logo, revealing the secret shape of the earth.


There is quite a bit of background with many references to follow here, on how they disproved that EM waves need a medium to travel through. It gives examples of scientists challenging the upheld ideas or in some cases here, trying to prove them and failing. Data and method is shared, others challenge and try to repeat, and as technology improves then so is the experiment. It demonstrates the gradual move towards greater accuracy and increased knowledge

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This is the opposite of what alternate thinkers do and they are likely to dismiss 150 years of evidence as a nice story before putting up something else with no basis or just resorting back to early 19th century physics for no apparent reason.

With EM waves not needing a medium to travel through now accepted by most, the question to challenge that should really be, “Why would an EM wave need a medium to travel through and can you prove this exists?”

In a supposed space vacuum that offers nothing, how can anything use action and equal and opposite reaction?
How can anything create a wave?
We are told if you move in one direction is space you will carry on in that direction at the same velocity forever, unless something stops it. Or basically constant velocity.

Then we're told EM radiation comes in waves which are not one direction, so how can a wave happen in the so called space vacuum?
It couldn't.
The whole space stuff is utter nonsensical yet magical stuff is produced to supposedly alter the motion in this nothingness that has many things within it just floating about.

It's one hell of a story but the story is likely all fiction in terms of this. IMO.

 

[taipeisafc]

Nothing can flow without friction.
Everything requires friction, no matter what it is.
Everything is always in motion whether it's clear and visual in terms of heavy machinery or down to the levels we cannot perceive. In my honest opinion.

A superfluid can - that is why it is a super fluid. And remember you brought the superfluid into this debate when you mused the dome was made of H2/He / ice / superfluid so really you need to think a bit more about your made up stuff.

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Includes a video......

"No longer a mere liquid, the helium has become a superfluid—a liquid that flows without friction. "If you set [down] a cup with a liquid circulating around and you come back 10 minutes later, of course it's stopped moving," says John Beamish, an experimental physicist at the University of Alberta in Edmonton. Atoms in the liquid will collide with one another and slow down. "But if you did that with helium at low temperature and came back a million years later," he says, "it would still be moving.""

You can keep going on about friction - I will just bring you back to the facts again. This could go on for weeks

 

[Nukehasslefan]

A superfluid can - that is why it is a super fluid. And remember you brought the superfluid into this debate when you mused the dome was made of H2/He / ice / superfluid so really you need to think a bit more about your made up stuff.

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I stand by what I said.
Anything that moves requires friction to do so.
This means the entirety of Earth itself and what is in it and what is external to it.

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"No longer a mere liquid, the helium has become a superfluid—a liquid that flows without friction. "If you set [down] a cup with a liquid circulating around and you come back 10 minutes later, of course it's stopped moving," says John Beamish, an experimental physicist at the University of Alberta in Edmonton. Atoms in the liquid will collide with one another and slow down. "But if you did that with helium at low temperature and came back a million years later," he says, "it would still be moving.""

You can keep going on about friction - I will just bring you back to the facts again. This could go on for weeks

There are no facts using zero friction.
There are no facts for space travel but we get told there is, time and time again.

You can bring up as many copy and paste books you want to but they don't offer you any reality, imo.
No friction, no movement, no life.
No existence of anything.

 

[taipeisafc]

I stand by what I said.
Anything that moves requires friction to do so.
This means the entirety of Earth itself and what is in it and what is external to it.


There are no facts using zero friction.
There are no facts for space travel but we get told there is, time and time again.

You can bring up as many copy and paste books you want to but they don't offer you any reality, imo.
No friction, no movement, no life.
No existence of anything.

You can stand by it but it is wrong - take your superfluid dome out and then there is something but a superfluid is completely frictionless and you are utterly wrong on that fact hence if your dome is superfluid then friction is not ubiquitous, doesn't matter how much you argue or "stand by" something you are still wrong. You need to have a good memory to make things up as some cocky sod will always turn up to point out your contradictions.

And all those bloody facts I keep bringing up are not offering reality - experiments on liquid helium from years ago shot in black and white and factual but not reality. Reality is not a subject of opinion it is or it isn't - I have shown evidence your assertion is wrong you haven't hence unless you can come up with some evidence that "there are no facts for zero friction" (which you can't) then you are wrong. I will accept the apology on behalf of the rest of the SMB for being a sanctimonious and pig ignorant buffoon.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You can stand by it but it is wrong -

And you're obviously welcome to that mindset. I disagree but there you go.

take your superfluid dome out and then there is something but a superfluid is completely frictionless and you are utterly wrong on that fact hence if your dome is superfluid then friction is not ubiquitous, doesn't matter how much you argue or "stand by" something you are still wrong.
You need to have a good memory to make things up as some cocky sod will always turn up to point out your contradictions.

There's nothing wrong in what I've said in terms of contradictions.
You're simply putting your own stamp on what you think and then telling me I'm wrong.
I've explained my dome and how it works, so tell me what I'm supposedly missing?

And all those bloody facts I keep bringing up are not offering reality

What facts are you bringing up?

- experiments on liquid helium from years ago shot in black and white and factual but not reality.

It shows friction. It's massive expansion of broken down matter to liquid and gas. What are the facts you're going on about?

Reality is not a subject of opinion it is or it isn't

I agree and this is what we're trying to find out. As it stands it's all about opinions based on set narratives against alternate opinions to that.
You are not in possession of facts in terms of what we're arguing but you are in possession of references to what you believe are the facts. IMO.

- I have shown evidence your assertion is wrong you haven't hence unless you can come up with some evidence that "there are no facts for zero friction" (which you can't) then you are wrong.

You've shown me no evidence of zero friction. I can see the friction happening and so can you but you think the visual mass expansion of liquids, known as boiling, happens without friction. It's impossible.

I will accept the apology on behalf of the rest of the SMB for being a sanctimonious and pig ignorant buffoon.

When I have something to apologise for you can be sure you'll get one.
As it stands I have nothing to apologise for and as it stands you've offered no proof against what I'm saying, unless you think bringing up explanations saying something is a truth, without actually knowing it, constitutes a truth for you, regardless.

If that's the case then you're absolutely welcome to it but don't expect me to share it.

 

[taipeisafc]

And you're obviously welcome to that mindset. I disagree but there you go.


There's nothing wrong in what I've said in terms of contradictions.
You're simply putting your own stamp on what you think and then telling me I'm wrong.
I've explained my dome and how it works, so tell me what I'm supposedly missing?



What facts are you bringing up?


It shows friction. It's massive expansion of broken down matter to liquid and gas. What are the facts you're going on about?



I agree and this is what we're trying to find out. As it stands it's all about opinions based on set narratives against alternate opinions to that.
You are not in possession of facts in terms of what we're arguing but you are in possession of references to what you believe are the facts. IMO.



You've shown me no evidence of zero friction. I can see the friction happening and so can you but you think the visual mass expansion of liquids, known as boiling, happens without friction. It's impossible.

When I have something to apologise for you can be sure you'll get one.
As it stands I have nothing to apologise for and as it stands you've offered no proof against what I'm saying, unless you think bringing up explanations saying something is a truth, without actually knowing it, constitutes a truth for you, regardless.

If that's the case then you're absolutely welcome to it but don't expect me to share it.

Utter drivel.....complete and utter twonk. I have tried to be reasonable but sadly you are an ignorant twat. Please go and pollute another message board with your utterly made up fantasy twaddle.

 

[Nobby]

Utter drivel.....complete and utter twonk. I have tried to be reasonable but sadly you are an ignorant twat. Please go and pollute another message board with your utterly made up fantasy twaddle.

Pretty much it. He has gone from postulating a different earth shape to rejecting any reality or argument, falling back on increasingly ludicrous claims that do not reflect what is easily observed.

It's gone from interesting to preposterous and simply feeding his ego

 

[babyimreadytoblow]

Imagine the uproar if he's right though

 

[Gelan]

just repeat the same thing over and over and it will become true.

I'm good looking, ripped and irresistable to women.

Nope it didn't work

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Utter drivel.....complete and utter twonk.

Feel free to add any extras if it helps you along.

I have tried to be reasonable but sadly you are an ignorant twat.

Maybe it's best for you to ignore me from this post onwards.

Please go and pollute another message board with your utterly made up fantasy twaddle.

Seriously I'd strongly advise you to ignore me.
I'm going to ignore you so we don't get into this frenzy. I do Apologise for doing this but I don't want you to get all upset because I won't conform to the narratives.

Pretty much it. He has gone from postulating a different earth shape to rejecting any reality or argument, falling back on increasingly ludicrous claims that do not reflect what is easily observed.

It's gone from interesting to preposterous and simply feeding his ego

Then don't feed it. Ignore me. It's not hard. I'll help you along.

 

[payne]

Feel free to add any extras if it helps you along.

Maybe it's best for you to ignore me from this post onwards.

Seriously I'd strongly advise you to ignore me.
I'm going to ignore you so we don't get into this frenzy. I do Apologise for doing this but I don't want you to get all upset because I won't conform to the narratives.

Then don't feed it. Ignore me. It's not hard. I'll help you along.

you mean reality

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I can see this is clearly upsetting too many people so I'm going to stay out of this topic from now on.

 

[taipeisafc]

Feel free to add any extras if it helps you along.

Maybe it's best for you to ignore me from this post onwards.

Seriously I'd strongly advise you to ignore me.
I'm going to ignore you so we don't get into this frenzy. I do Apologise for doing this but I don't want you to get all upset because I won't conform to the narratives.

Then don't feed it. Ignore me. It's not hard. I'll help you along.

Pathetic

I can see this is clearly upsetting too many people so I'm going to stay out of this topic from now on.

Even more pathetic fancy thinking anyone actually gets upset by your ignorant drivel

 

[Nobby]

Oops I've gone on his naughty step

 

[babyimreadytoblow]

I'm good looking, ripped and irresistable to women.

Nope it didn't work

What happend to your invention you promised you'd post on here?

 

[jacko100]

This account surely has to be a wind up, nobody can really be like this can they?? please say they cant.......

 

[legend7]

What happend to your invention you promised you'd post on here?

Actually was that the gravity driven car or was that some other nut.
But he doesn't believe in gravity if its him.
Remind me? Ha ha