Put a flat earthier into space

[fyl2u]

Wow, just when you think he's hit the limits of bullshittery and ignorance, he punches through the mirroring hydrogen/helium ice ceiling and reaches a whole new level of "oh my word, I can't believe anyone is really this stupid".

 

[DaveH]

I just stuck some eggs on to boil. Put them in a pan, placed it on the stove then used the electric ignition to make a spark to light the gas. Loads of friction going on there.

So called science says that the high voltage ionises the gas between the electrodes, which then allows the electricity to break down the normally insulating air gap and spark across, lighting the gas. We now know this heat and light is actually just friction.

Then the gas gives off heat and light as it burns. More friction.

 

[legend7]

I just stuck some eggs on to boil. Put them in a pan, placed it on the stove then used the electric ignition to make a spark to light the gas. Loads of friction going on there.

So called science says that the high voltage ionises the gas between the electrodes, which then allows the electricity to break down the normally insulating air gap and spark across, lighting the gas. We now know this heat and light is actually just friction.

Then the gas gives off heat and light as it burns. More friction.

Must be noisy as fuck in your kitchen with all of that friction.
Dunno how you hear yourself think

 

[DaveH]

He could easily put up a few links to various sources where this information he has comes from. The stuff that flies in the face of conventional science

No he can’t. An alternate thinker dismisses all human knowledge then pulls ideas out of nowhere, with no experimentation, no investigation and assumes it to be true. When the rest of the world disagrees, the alternate thinker claims conspiracy, brainwashing and cover up. Clearly this is not rational, which is why I’m fascinated by them, especially when their fantasies contradict.

A few thousand years ago, people looked at the world and thought “why does that work?”. I would say it is this drive to discover why that is an essential part of being human. They had little science or mathematical knowledge so essentially invented a theory, which usually involved gods or spirits. Eventually science has replaced most of these ideas, but generally there was the philosophy that if something could not be explained, the wise people of the village would pull an idea out of nowhere with no reason for reaching that conclusion and no way of proving/disproving and preach that to others.

Alternate thinkers are the same as the tribe wise people, only there is generally not a belief in spirits. I’ve noticed they take scientific and technical terms then throw them around without much understanding but it sounds good. Same as me with German. I know a few words and can make a phrase that might impress a non German speaker. An actual German would look at me baffled. Much as people who understand science can read these pages and think eh?

Must be noisy as fuck in your kitchen with all of that friction.
Dunno how you hear yourself think

You joke, but when he came up with this ages ago, he did say that is why you hear the wrrrrr from a microwave.

 

[BigPete]

Light is the product of sound. Sound is the product of vibration/friction and frequency.
One can't work without the other.

How come sound doesn't go the speed of light then?

If light is instantaneous and they both work together and can't have one without the other than they both must travel at the same speed?

Or else go out of sync and stop working.

 

[What A Waster]

How come sound doesn't go the speed of light then?

If light is instantaneous and they both work together and can't have one without the other than they both must travel at the same speed?

Or else go out of sync and stop working.

The noise of the sun from last Thursday woke me up at about 4am this morning.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Superfluid have zero viscosity - hence no friction. You are contradicting yourself.

There's no contradiction with what I'm saying.
What you think is a contradiction is down to you and how you're looking at what's being said..

Decelerating really isn't anything - seriously.......you do know it means the same as slowing down

Yes, slowing down.
Slowing down is the result of natural friction taking place without acceleration against it. Decelerating really doesn't mean anything as far as I'm concerned.

@Nukehasslefan how do you know that all matter is made up of vibrations?

Just natural senses and simple everyday observations and uses. It's not really hard to under stand that everything is attached. No free space, which means everything has to be under friction.

If you want to argue whether i've jumped down into a so called atom then we won't go far on this, will we?

I just stuck some eggs on to boil. Put them in a pan, placed it on the stove then used the electric ignition to make a spark to light the gas. Loads of friction going on there.

Absolutely.

So called science says that the high voltage ionises the gas between the electrodes, which then allows the electricity to break down the normally insulating air gap and spark across, lighting the gas. We now know this heat and light is actually just friction.

Absolutely.

Then the gas gives off heat and light as it burns. More friction.

Absolutely.

 

[BigPete]

Decelerating really doesn't mean anything as far as I'm concerned.

Hope you don't drive a car

 

[taipeisafc]

There's no contradiction with what I'm saying.
What you think is a contradiction is down to you and how you're looking at what's being said..

Yes, slowing down.
Slowing down is the result of natural friction taking place without acceleration against it. Decelerating really doesn't mean anything as far as I'm concerned.

Just natural senses and simple everyday observations and uses. It's not really hard to under stand that everything is attached. No free space, which means everything has to be under friction.

If you want to argue whether i've jumped down into a so called atom then we won't go far on this, will we?

Absolutely.



Absolutely.

Absolutely.

You specifically said a superfluid was under vibration/friction as a superfluid has zero viscosity it offers zero friction hence a contradiction.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

A few thousand years ago, people looked at the world and thought “why does that work?”. I would say it is this drive to discover why that is an essential part of being human.

I agree with this.

They had little science or mathematical knowledge so essentially invented a theory, which usually involved gods or spirits.

This is true of some.

Eventually science has replaced most of these ideas, but generally there was the philosophy that if something could not be explained, the wise people of the village would pull an idea out of nowhere with no reason for reaching that conclusion and no way of proving/disproving and preach that to others.

I think it goes on in all kinds of ways.
Hypotheses and theories and musings and misinformation and disinformation. A whole host of stuff.

Alternate thinkers are the same as the tribe wise people, only there is generally not a belief in spirits.

Does that make an alternate thinker, wrong?

I’ve noticed they take scientific and technical terms then throw them around without much understanding but it sounds good.

Yeah, I see a lot of that with the space shenanigans and black holes and worm holes and warped space time continuum......and so on.
A classic case of dazzle us all with brilliance and baffle us all with utter bull.

How come sound doesn't go the speed of light then?

Because there's no such thing as a speed of light.
Sound is a pressure wave. A vibration and frequency. A friction.
Light is the visual. An instant.

If light is instantaneous and they both work together and can't have one without the other than they both must travel at the same speed?

Yes but you can't hear light. You see it as is. Instantly.
Sound is the speed only to our hearing or feeling as a vibration depending on the severity of the friction creating it.

Or else go out of sync and stop working.

That depends on what you mean.

Hope you don't drive a car

Yep and it does everything through friction/vibration and frequency.
It never reaches a constant velocity because it can't.

Unless you're meaning something else.

You specifically said a superfluid was under vibration/friction as a superfluid has zero viscosity it offers zero friction hence a contradiction.

who said it has zero viscosity? Certainly not me.

 

[taipeisafc]

It is what makes it a superfluid, same as a superconductor has zero resistance. You are really clutching here

 

[What A Waster]

Because there's no such thing as a speed of light.
Sound is a pressure wave. A vibration and frequency. A friction.
Light is the visual. An instant.

Yes but you can't hear light. You see it as is. Instantly.
Sound is the speed only to our hearing or feeling as a vibration depending on the severity of the friction creating it.

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[Nukehasslefan]

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The man knew what he was talking about. People decided to make out he was off his trolley.

It is what makes it a superfluid, same as a superconductor has zero resistance. You are really clutching here

No it isn't what makes it a superfluid. They are all under resistance which is because of vibration/friction because energy is still tehre. Pressure is still there.
We as humans perceive only a portion of what's going on.

 

[What A Waster]

The man knew what he was talking about. People decided to make out he was off his trolley.

No it isn't what makes it a superfluid. They are all under resistance which is because of vibration/friction because energy is still tehre. Pressure is still there.
We as humans perceive only a portion of what's going on.

I asked you weeks ago how you knew about superfluid. Do you make it at home?

 

[BigPete]

I agree with this.


This is true of some.


I think it goes on in all kinds of ways.
Hypotheses and theories and musings and misinformation and disinformation. A whole host of stuff.


Does that make an alternate thinker, wrong?

Yeah, I see a lot of that with the space shenanigans and black holes and worm holes and warped space time continuum......and so on.
A classic case of dazzle us all with brilliance and baffle us all with utter bull.


Because there's no such thing as a speed of light.
Sound is a pressure wave. A vibration and frequency. A friction.
Light is the visual. An instant.

Yes but you can't hear light. You see it as is. Instantly.
Sound is the speed only to our hearing or feeling as a vibration depending on the severity of the friction creating it.

That depends on what you mean.

Yep and it does everything through friction/vibration and frequency.
It never reaches a constant velocity because it can't.

Unless you're meaning something else.

who said it has zero viscosity? Certainly not me.

Just waffled back with bollocks there mate..

 

[taipeisafc]

The man knew what he was talking about. People decided to make out he was off his trolley.

No it isn't what makes it a superfluid. They are all under resistance which is because of vibration/friction because energy is still tehre. Pressure is still there.
We as humans perceive only a portion of what's going on.

Yes it is

superfluid
[ˌsuːpəˈfluːɪd]
NOUN
a liquid that flows without friction or viscosity.
"superfluids can flow ceaselessly without any energy loss"
ADJECTIVE
having the property of flowing without friction or viscosity.
"the sudden switch from liquid helium to superfluid helium"

 

[DaveH]

Does that make an alternate thinker, wrong?

When most of what they say can be disproven, then yes, absolutely.

You can’t just pull ideas out of nowhere then expect reality to conform. That is the difference between alternate/free thinkers and scientists.

The first just makes up an idea, expects it to be true then claims they are special and above the brainwashed. Scientists come up with a possible explanation for how something might work then prove or disprove that.

Take migrating birds. As recently as victorian times, certain birds had been noted to have disappeared in winter, leading to unproven somewhat crazy ideas that they sleep at the bottom of ponds or turn into something completely different. There was no basis for this. Then ornithologists started to investigate. There was some speculation they flew to Africa, where the same sort or bird was seen in our winter but not in our summer. By charting sightings in southern Europe at migration times, ring marking and more recently GPS tracking it was proven beyond doubt they do migrate, even though it seems far fetched that some very small birds can fly all that way and back in a year.

The alternate thinkers are still at the bottom of ponds level. Yes it is an explanation but with no basis and ultimately completely wrong.

 

[payne]

When most of what they say can be disproven, then yes, absolutely.

You can’t just pull ideas out of nowhere then expect reality to conform. That is the difference between alternate/free thinkers and scientists.

The first just makes up an idea, expects it to be true then claims they are special and above the brainwashed. Scientists come up with a possible explanation for how something might work then prove or disprove that.

Take migrating birds. As recently as victorian times, certain birds had been noted to have disappeared in winter, leading to unproven somewhat crazy ideas that they sleep at the bottom of ponds or turn into something completely different. There was no basis for this. Then ornithologists started to investigate. There was some speculation they flew to Africa, where the same sort or bird was seen in our winter but not in our summer. By charting sightings in southern Europe at migration times, ring marking and more recently GPS tracking it was proven beyond doubt they do migrate, even though it seems far fetched that some very small birds can fly all that way and back in a year.

The alternate thinkers are still at the bottom of ponds level. Yes it is an explanation but with no basis and ultimately completely wrong.

but super carbon arcs, man

 

[DaveH]

A NASA page of lies:

Electromagnetic waves differ from mechanical waves in that they do not require a medium to propagate. This means that electromagnetic waves can travel not only through air and solid materials, but also through the vacuum of space.

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More lies here:

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Though look at the logo, revealing the secret shape of the earth.

The idea that there had to be a medium for electromagnetic waves was the single most reactionary preconception that slowed down 19th century physics and many top people including Maxwell believed in this "luminiferous aether", too. They were even building models of this contrived aether out of wheels and gears.

There is quite a bit of background with many references to follow here, on how they disproved that EM waves need a medium to travel through. It gives examples of scientists challenging the upheld ideas or in some cases here, trying to prove them and failing. Data and method is shared, others challenge and try to repeat, and as technology improves then so is the experiment. It demonstrates the gradual move towards greater accuracy and increased knowledge

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This is the opposite of what alternate thinkers do and they are likely to dismiss 150 years of evidence as a nice story before putting up something else with no basis or just resorting back to early 19th century physics for no apparent reason.

With EM waves not needing a medium to travel through now accepted by most, the question to challenge that should really be, “Why would an EM wave need a medium to travel through and can you prove this exists?”

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Just waffled back with bollocks there mate..

Aye. Anything that goes against the grain will always be classed as baloney and I have absolutely no issue with that train of thought.