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riffraff said:
They get big pay days everywhere they play man ferchrissakes. To move nufc will have to pay them a lot more than theyreonntomove to the NE. FFP will impose limits on how much. You’re a lot shitter than City and Chelsea were when they hit pay dirt and ffp didn’t exist then either.
If it happens it won’t happen quickly.
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Aye, their only hope is to be able to get around FFP. If they can, then the sky is sadly the limit. If it is strengthened and enforced they're completely hamstrung. Limits on how much they can spend, limits on how much they can up their wage bill. Whilst they aren't in the CL they'll have to massively overpay on wages to get anyone decent. I don't really like the closed shop element, but that's obviously a main reason why FFP came in in the first place. It took city a fairly long time even when there were less restrictions. Getting top four is the big one for them, the extra revenue would give them loads more room under FFP, but getting there is nigh on impossible unless they get everything right
 

riffraff said:
They get big pay days everywhere they play man ferchrissakes. To move nufc will have to pay them a lot more than theyreonntomove to the NE. FFP will impose limits on how much. You’re a lot shitter than City and Chelsea were when they hit pay dirt and ffp didn’t exist then either.
If it happens it won’t happen quickly.
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"Ambitious Middlesbrough had offered what was then a sizeable fee of £7million for his services and this was the best offer on the table for the striker. Determined to scupper the deal he instructed his agent to request a salary so ridiculous that it would cause Boro to walk away from negotiations for good. Ravanelli was earning £7,000-per-week at Juventus so a demand was made for a six-fold rise to a then unprecedented £42,000-per-week."

It is possible but to get top stars, and Ravanelli was a star (not a top one), Boro needed to pay him 6 x his Juve salary. ......I reckon AS has sold PIF a dream that cannot be fulfilled and she will be told to f**k off when Lingard wants 0.5m per week.
 
londonexile said:
Why don’t you just admit you don’t really care about the blatant human rights abuses by your Saudi owners and really only care that the owners will put significant dirty money in to buy better players ?
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Yep that’s what I say to various geordies at work, who try skirt round the issue with whatabouttery, tho to be fair a few have said the couldn’t care less and are only interested in signing loads of players and winning stuff, and I respect them more than those who try to justify it😳
 
aupaalaves said:
Big Newcastle thread above this one. Why not just post in there rather than create a new thread about your local rivals? 🤷

We claim they're obsessed with us, going by this forum, looks like the obsession is mutual.
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Because this isn't about their sportswashing / turn a blind eye / thirty pieces of silver bollocks - it's about whether they're any good on the pitch.
 
keybuk said:
Well I'm prepared to admit that I've never given that much attention to human rights abuses in Saudi or anywhere else for that matter.

However I doubt 99% of the people on here that are criticising Newcastle supporters have done that either, until this deal came along.

Disingenuous, hypocritical and sanctimonious are just three words that spring to mind.

Although if this deal has made people genuinely rethink what the relationship with Saudi Arabia and other countries should be then that has go to be a good thing.
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😳😳😂😂. That's like saying I've married Rose West, but if it brings conversation about it to the public, then it's a good thing. If you haven't known or read anything about the Saudis until your takeover then I'd say that says more about you than anyone who has k own the whole time.
You're in bed with the devil.... Enjoy the shag but accept everything that comes with it a don't excuse it in the name of football. They sanctioned the beheading and actual sawing up of a human who spoke out ffs
 
Windypants said:
Looking at their fixtures leading up to the next window opening, will Newcastle be so far behind that they'll be an unattractive proposition to potential signings?

Their games up until Jan 1 are:
Chelsea H
Brighton A
Brentford H
Arsenal A
Norwich H
Burnley H
Leicester A
Liverpool A
Man City H
Everton A

Norwich and Burnley ( and maybe Brentford) look to be the only games where you'd say they were probable to get something. If they arse up against one of these teams, they could be going into the transfer window with single figures in the points column.
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If the centre forward Wilson stays fit, they shud be still in amongst it. He's more key than ASM.
 
aupaalaves said:
Big Newcastle thread above this one. Why not just post in there rather than create a new thread about your local rivals? 🤷

We claim they're obsessed with us, going by this forum, looks like the obsession is mutual.
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Seems to me that one quite explicitly states its about takeover and sportswashing

It's barely readable half the time when the 2 resident mags get revved up and take the thread over anyway
 
Fletch said:
I think they will buy their way out if it in January
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As I said a few weeks back, in a relegation battle in the prem I right off the 14 games v the top 7 teams, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, Leicester and Man Utd (I know many would not have Arsenal in that list but hey)!!. You might get a few points here and there from those but it will only be a few. Thus far the mags have played only 2 of those games and lost them both (Man Utd away and Spurs at home). They play 5 more of these type of games before the January window opens. They have had a reletively easy start.

That leaves the other 12 clubs and you need 35 points normally to scrape survival by the skin of your teeth. So they would need to get a return of around 1.5 points per game v all those other clubs. Thus far they have played 7 of those games and got 4 draws and 3 losses which is 0.57 pts per game so far. They are already about 6-7 pts behind schedule.

I would argue that even with a major investment, they are still going to lose most of the rest of those games v the top 7 teams I listed this season, so would then need circa 31 points from the last 17 games v the rest. That's around 1.8 pts per game. That's why results like yesterday are poor for them. Every time they play a game like that v a lesser side and fail to win, the equation just gets harder. They have 5 more to play before the window opens and those are absolutely critical. If they end up with 4 or 5 points from those 5 then the transformation in January will need to be spectacular as the odds will be firmly stacked against them.
 
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