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I've only looked back on the last 2 pages, but it's a bunch of petty bickering that completely ignores the fact that the greatest threat to peace, democracy, and civility on the planet (AS EVIDENCED) is charading as owner of a local football team.

We can't expect them to do much better if we won't.
 
Daffy said:
You’re a wind up
Surprised the mods are still tolerating you’re shite
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You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.
Vore said:
I've only looked back on the last 2 pages, but it's a bunch of petty bickering that completely ignores the fact that the greatest threat to peace, democracy, and civility on the planet (AS EVIDENCED) is charading as owner of a local football team.

We can't expect them to do much better if we won't.
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I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
 
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keybuk said:
I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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I have no idea who you are, but I'm pretty sure you just tried to wall-of-text this idea at me:

The fact that the new NUFC owners are actively complicit in the greatest humanitarian crisis on the planet, doesn't matter very much, because climate change is happening.
*not downplaying the rest, but they are small fry. It's also a horrendous wrench on your position, but I'm going to keep all the bold anyway cos it's important, sorry.
 
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Vore said:
I have no idea who you are, but I'm pretty sure you just tried to wall-of-text this idea at me:

The fact that the new NUFC owners are actively complicit in the greatest humanitarian crisis on the planet, doesn't matter very much, because climate change is happening.
*not downplaying the rest, but they are small fry. It's also a horrendous wrench on your position, but I'm going to keep all the bold anyway cos it's important, sorry.
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That's not what I was saying at all. You made a claim that really overstates their position in the scheme of things and I just pointed out the things that really are much more of a worry for us. If you want to argue your case stop trying to be so dramatic. I'd also like, if you are prepared to give it, an honest answer about how you campaigned against the Saudi government before they bought Newcastle. Unless I missed it very few give it a second thought. That some do now is a good thing but let's be honest about the real reason for that.
 
keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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So, from that diatribe we have learned that:

You still have an agenda against Ashley.
You think the best thing for football would be for Newcastle to win the league year after year.
You don’t care about human rights in Saudi Arabia.
You think that this deal is the thing that puts Saudi Arabia in the spotlight, (ignoring 9/11, Yemen, Khashoggi, etc. etc.)
You think we should ignore the Saudi’s and look at Russia/China/N.Korea/Internet/Politics/Climate change. (Do you think we haven’t been doing that anyway?)

And WE need to look at how WE are going on?

Grow up FFS
 
keybuk said:
That's not what I was saying at all. You made a claim that really overstates their position in the scheme of things and I just pointed out the things that really are much more of a worry for us. If you want to argue your case stop trying to be so dramatic. I'd also like, if you are prepared to give it, an honest answer about how you campaigned against the Saudi government before they bought Newcastle. Unless I missed it very few give it a second thought. That some do now is a good thing but let's be honest about the real reason for that.
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You've been here since 2017, you should have access to ample examples of my verbal campaigns re: the disgusting elements of the KSA regime. I'm semi-regular on POL ffs.

Most of my mates are NUFC fans and not one has said anything positive about their club since the takeover.
derum said:
So, from that diatribe we have learned that:

You still have an agenda against Ashley.
You think the best thing for football would be for Newcastle to win the league year after year.
You don’t care about human rights in Saudi Arabia.
You think that this deal is the thing that puts Saudi Arabia in the spotlight, (ignoring 9/11, Yemen, Khashoggi, etc. etc.)
You think we should ignore the Saudi’s and look at Russia/China/N.Korea/Internet/Politics/Climate change. (Do you think we haven’t been doing that anyway?)

And WE need to look at how WE are going on?

Grow up FFS
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The best thing about it was that in that 615 word essay, they used "bothered" eight times. Apropos nada.
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This might actually be how we end up filtering the proper NUFC nutters from Saudi disruptors. It's really f***ing statistically significant, how often this one was "bothered" - it's not just a dog-nonce trait anymore, military-grade algorithms are learning how to infiltrate this board. Citable. This is life now
 
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keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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What a f***ing abysmal post.
 
keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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Aye, if I were a mag my overriding thought on how to celebrate Ashley going would be to dress up as an Arab too.
 
keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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You’ve went to an awful lot of effort writing all of that for a bite

Good effort 👍I only read the first bit by the way 😉
 
keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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Jesus, what an absolute embarrassment you are. Should expect no less I suppose. You’re all like this.
 
Waiting with baited breath for when they appoint a Saudi manager. Hey... They've got their club back :)

Maybe this guy. Young up and coming Saudi who's a revelation
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keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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Father Jack Hackett said:
The fact he mentioned he's received assurances his position was safe was telling. What if the new bloke wants his own staff? Could be some disruption behind the scenes.

Also, as been said, the way he undermined Bruce for the cameras was shocking. He literally pushed him out of the way whilst he was talking to a player to put his own oar in th other week. Seemd a proper egotistical wrong un and, St Maximin's tweet about Bruce being such a nice fella suggests it may not

Get your tongue out their arse man, fuck the mags
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keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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So to celebrate getting rid of Ashley you had to dress up as Arabs and carry Saudi flags. Righteeo
 
keybuk said:
You lot really need to have a look at how you are going on.

You're laying into Newcastle fans for being happy that there's been a change of ownership. You're delusional if you think people were celebrating outside of the ground anything other than Ashley going. In fact right now, until a player is bought, the only person that's benefitted from the change is Ashley, the man who didn't give two fucks where the money comes from or any of the shit that goes with it. Why haven't you had a go at him rather than the fans?

Why haven't the other clubs had a go at him for that? The unpalatable truth is they don't care about the human rights abuse in Saudi, they're just bothered about how the Saudi money will affect their balance sheet. You're just bothered about it because your rivals will probably start winning all sorts of things in time. I bet there isn't hundreds of pages of comments about this takeover on other club boards. Not to the extent that you have reacted.

I don't blame you for being pissed off about the situation. I've been pissed off for years that we were stuck with someone who had no interest in the club. He's abused the fan/club relationship for his own benefit for years. You're going to find yourselves looking on as Newcastle become a real player in the league. It will all be down to the money the Saudis hoy at it. It's tainted but what do you expect the fans to do?

You probably won't agree but perhaps the best thing that could happen is Newcastle start winning the league year after year. Perhaps then the clique of clubs that were ready to fuck off to a super league might start campaigning for a proper spending limit that all clubs in the league could match. Then perhaps the league would become a proper competition again. They were quite content to divvy up the trophies between themselves for the past 20 years but now there's a chance they could start to miss out they're bothered. They're not bothered about this deal tainting the league. They know their own supporters aren't going to stop going to games or pack in Sky.

Am I personally bothered about human rights in Saudi. No I'm not. If I was sufficiently bothered about it then I think I may have taken the opportunity to make a protest before they came in to buy any club. If you had protested then good on you, but if you haven't but are now making a big issue of it then I don't think you are bothered about it either, you're just bothered about the potential difference between where the clubs will be in a few years.

I quite liked Gary Neville's opinion on the takeover. Perhaps by them coming into the spotlight they might be persuaded to make an effort to modernise. Will they? I doubt it. If they did would you accept it's been a good move? No you wouldn't because the overriding problem with this takeover is not about human rights but how it impacts other clubs.

I think there a few countries and circumstances that threaten those things a lot more. Putin and his manipulation of gas, Xi and his designs on Taiwan, the North Korean nut job, the impact of the internet on politics, right wing parties gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters. Even all them pale into insignificance when viewed against climate change. There's going to be some serious shit for future generations to contend with in the near future that will be a lot more bothersome than Newcastle buying the league.
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tl;dr. Fuck off
 
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