Put a flat earthier into space

[taipeisafc]

Water can burn you. It can friction burn you. And water can burn if you break it down.



You clearly haven't taken notice.
The gases you talk of are at the finish of the stacking system of layers up to the dome.
They don't go any farther.

Nice story but it's based on nothing.

So water can burn you if you break it down - to H2 and O I presume. In the same way water can give you an acid burn if you add acid to it and make it something different. Water cannot friction burn you as it cannot generate enough friction blokes water ski barefoot and manage without friction burns. FFS are you really this thick

I have taken notice of your musings on gases - sadly they are all a complete load of bollocks

And Nuclear fission is a nice story based on nothing - so the following are lies then :-

Hiroshima (which I have been to)
Nagasaki
Hundreds of Nuclear bomb tests
Fukushima
Chernobyl (which someone on here fyl2u maybe has been to)
Multiple Other nuclear power stations
Sellafield / Windscale
Sizewell B
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Sits and waits to see what utter tosh he invents to counter this fully expecting no response of any value

 

[DaveH]

And that's why I don't hand it out as factual which I've told you so many times to try and register it with you but here we go again.
This is the difference.


There are none that say this.
Unless you want to name me one.

Why?
To dare to think alternately to what we've been schooled into when there's no proof?
It's only odd because people follow a narrative en-masse and anything contrary to that is obviously classed as odd ball behaviour, as long as it has CT tagged against it, which is another case of follow the leader of the wording.


Basically this is what a lot of people do. Some just blatantly make stuff up and pass it off as factual. People like me have thoughts based on going against those stories to find they make no sense but also know that my experiments can not push any person to alter their forced narratives, which is the correct thing to do as I cannot pass my thoughts off as factual on my model, except one main thing which has been done to death but is absolutely valid.

Mistaken about my Earth shape and what not? Absolutely I could be. I could be way off.

I'll tell you what I'm not mistaken about. I'm not mistaken about Earth not being a spinning globe. 100% sure of that.

People should absolutely think alternatively, challenge what we think we know and look critically at sources of information. E.g. are these information sources credible, what are their motives etc. Scientific development only happens because people challenge ideas of those before. Try to repeat the experiments, if they can't, why? If they can, ok but what if they took them a step further, what would happen if the parameters were changed? etc etc. That is how we learn and grow.

What I fail to understand is why some people such as yourself wear alternative thinking as a badge of honour when that alternative thinking is literally making up shit for stuff they don't understand, with absolutely no basis, no experiments or evidence that can be provided for others to follow and if people disagree claim they are sheep following a government conspiracy.

I don't call that healthy alternate thinking at all.

 

[What A Waster]

Very little.
Your eyes are not sensitive enough to see it all.
And it all depends on the material you're putting energy into in terms of force and frequency to gain the vibration/friction for you to see the resulting light back to your eyes.

Ok.
So how do I get sound to make light we can see with our eyes? I'd like to show this to the kids

 

[Nobby]

I want to know how my lightbulb can light the room without deafening me

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So water can burn you if you break it down - to H2 and O I presume. In the same way water can give you an acid burn if you add acid to it and make it something different. Water cannot friction burn you as it cannot generate enough friction blokes water ski barefoot and manage without friction burns. FFS are you really this thick

When you fail to understand friction and frequency and pressure like I mentioned then you're always going to act like this.

I have taken notice of your musings on gases - sadly they are all a complete load of bollocks

Says you and you're welcome to it because I go against anything you're saying up to now so I can't expect different, can I?

And Nuclear fission is a nice story based on nothing - so the following are lies then :-

Hiroshima (which I have been to.
Nagasaki
Hundreds of Nuclear bomb tests
Fukushima
Chernobyl (which someone on here fyl2u maybe has been to)
Multiple Other nuclear power stations
Sellafield / Windscale
Sizewell B
ad infintum

Sits and waits to see what utter tosh he invents to counter this fully expecting no response of any value

I have nothing to say. You've been to all these places as you say.
I don't know what you're trying to say but, carry on.

People should absolutely think alternatively, challenge what we think we know and look critically at sources of information. E.g. are these information sources credible, what are their motives etc.

And when no proof is forthcoming then the querying gets a bit more deeper.
This is why all this stuff is being argued when it could easily be put to bed if proof was shown.

I know I know....but....it's all secret and all that, right?

Scientific development only happens because people challenge ideas of those before.

Yep and I have absolutely no issue with real science and scientists who actually use it and better the process of it and the understanding.

Try to repeat the experiments, if they can't, why? If they can, ok but what if they took them a step further, what would happen if the parameters were changed? etc etc. That is how we learn and grow.

Yep. I have no issue with this.

What I fail to understand is why some people such as yourself wear alternative thinking as a badge of honour when that alternative thinking is literally making up shit for stuff they don't understand, with absolutely no basis, no experiments or evidence that can be provided for others to follow and if people disagree claim they are sheep following a government conspiracy.

We're basically all sheep like...me massively included. I follow the narratives on many things but I question a lot of refuse to believe a lot.
Let's put it this way. If you do not believe just one thing that comes from the people you generally believe, almost unconditionally, then you're CT.
It doesn't matter whether you argue it just being a few things and the rest you agree with.
If there's no proof it doesn't not have to be believed.

I don't call that healthy alternate thinking at all.

Of course you don't. You think anyone questioning stuff, is a nutter, if it goes against the narrative.
I'd say questioning stuff is more than healthy unless those who you question decide to do away with your health.

 

[taipeisafc]

When you fail to understand friction and frequency and pressure like I mentioned then you're always going to act like this.

Says you and you're welcome to it because I go against anything you're saying up to now so I can't expect different, can I?

I have nothing to say. You've been to all these places as you say.
I don't know what you're trying to say but, carry on.

The problem is i understand pressure, friction and frequency and you have no clue. It is actually part of my day to work on chemical plants

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Ok.
So how do I get sound to make light we can see with our eyes? I'd like to show this to the kids

A simple flint and lighter is a good start.
Then you can get a stick and spin it against stone until it glows.

Or you can scrape metal along.
Just a few simple things you can start with.

I want to know how my lightbulb can light the room without deafening me

Your ears aren't sensitive enough to hear the friction. You simply see the light.

Just like you only hear what made the lightning after you see the flash, followed by the sound that made it.

The problem is i understand pressure, friction and frequency and you have no clue. It is actually part of my day to work on chemical plants

Then don't deal with a nutter like me. Be happy in your work and happy with what you know.
I'll stick to what I go with.

 

[Nobby]

You sure lightning isn't caused by electricity?

What friction in the lightbulb, it has no moving parts?

 

[What A Waster]

A simple flint and lighter is a good start.
Then you can get a stick and spin it against stone until it glows.

Or you can scrape metal along.
Just a few simple things you can start with.

Your ears aren't sensitive enough to hear the friction. You simply see the light.

Just like you only hear what made the lightning after you see the flash, followed by the sound that made it.

Then don't deal with a nutter like me. Be happy in your work and happy with what you know.
I'll stick to what I go with.

Is that not friction rather than sound?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You sure lightning isn't caused by electricity?

Yep.
And do you know what electricity is?

What friction in the lightbulb, it has no moving parts?

It does. Why do you think it lights up?

Is that not friction rather than sound?

What do you think friction is?
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[Nobby]

What moving parts in the lightbulb?

 

[What A Waster]

Yep.
And do you know what electricity is?

It does. Why do you think it lights up?

What do you think friction is?
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I think friction is the force between two things when they're in contact with each other. Heat, light and sound are a by product of friction.
I've never known sound to create light but if you can tell me how to do that so i can amaze my kids I'd be grateful. I don't know how to do it and you said it doesn't take much, but then gave me examples of friction based light

 

[Nukehasslefan]

What moving parts in the lightbulb?

Friction of matter.

I think friction is the force between two things when they're in contact with each other.

Yep.

Heat, light and sound are a by product of friction.

Nope. They're the absolute product of friction.

I've never known sound to create light but if you can tell me how to do that so i can amaze my kids I'd be grateful.

Just have. Pay attention.

I don't know how to do it and you said it doesn't take much, but then gave me examples of friction based light

You get all of it with what I proposed to you.
Do it don't. Either way it doesn't affect me.

 

[What A Waster]

Friction of matter.

Yep.

Nope. They're the absolute product of friction.


Just have. Pay attention.

You get all of it with what I proposed to you.
Do it don't. Either way it doesn't affect me.

The sound and light is coming from the friction though. That's not making light with sound.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

The sound and light is coming from the friction though. That's not making light with sound.

You don't get heat without sound. You don't get light without heat.
The issue is, how much of those do we immediately perceive?
It's all down to frequency and energy applied that determines what we hear and see.
Animals and insects will see more than us. Some won't.

Can you see infrared? But you can feel it.

 

[What A Waster]

You don't get heat without sound. You don't get light without heat.
The issue is, how much of those do we immediately perceive?
It's all down to frequency and energy applied that determines what we hear and see.
Animals and insects will see more than us. Some won't.

Can you see infrared? But you can feel it.

So the light is not caused by sound.

If I turned up my radio extremely loud light will not come from the speakers.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So the light is not caused by sound.

It depends how you want to look at it.
For anything to work it has to have vibration and frequency created through energy.
If you cannot hear friction does it mean there's no sound?
You could argue if you can't hear it then you don't accept there's sound. If that's what you want to do then just accept it that way. I can't help you on that score. Go with what you want to.

If I turned up my radio extremely loud light will not come from the speakers.

No but if the energy and frequency and the speakers ability to accept the added energy, the wires would glow.
However, I'm sure you've used or seen one of those induction hobs...have you?

Have a good think on it.

 

[What A Waster]

It depends how you want to look at it.

I want to look at it in the way that light is being caused by sound.


Looks like it isn't.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I want to look at it in the way that light is being caused by sound.


Looks like it isn't.

Just go with that then.

 

[What A Waster]

Just go with that then.

I will until you can show me otherwise.