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Yellerish said:
Yes you really have..and achieved nothing. No one on here is changing their mind
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Was I trying to change anyone's mind - also don't recall coming on to this thread at all yesterday and it's the first time I've posted on it today. If it helps whatever odd narrative you have, I've been on all the time though arguing the Saudi's are ruddy great folks 🙄
 

Black Cat Gypsy said:
That's his job.

"And my favourite, in the increasingly desperate charges of hypocrisy levelled at any journalist who has the temerity to object to the sale of one of our best-loved football institutions to an organisation headed by a man who was found to have ordered a grisly assassination, is this: ‘What about the fact journalists went to Riyadh to watch Anthony Joshua fight Andy Ruiz Jr?’

I hate to break this to you but reporting on things is what journalists do and now and again that means leaving England to do it. Travelling to a country does not imply support for its regime. If a journalist goes to watch a football match in Brazil, it doesn’t mean he’s an apologist for Jair Bolsonaro. I went to the US Masters a couple of years ago. It didn’t mean I was engaging in tacit support for Donald Trump.

So, sure, plenty of sports journalists went to Riyadh in December 2019 for Joshua-Ruiz 2. And the good journalists asked uncomfortable questions of Joshua and Eddie Hearn about why Joshua was fighting there and used it as an opportunity to criticise the Saudi regime and shine a light on some of its injustices. Some journalists went to the place where they hold public executions, known as Chop Chop Square, but there were no executions that week. It wouldn’t have looked good."
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Excellent rebuttal, even if this ignores the fact he directly benefitted from the deal financially.

It also doesn't address the fact the same fella in the past said it doesn't matter where money comes from when questions were previously raised. All I was doing was highlighting he's a hypocrite. He's not wrong in his views on the Saudi's, but he's wrong to attack a fellow journalist for no reason when he's actually more guilty of what he's accusing the other of.
Georgewhitt said:
He picks very carefully the posts he wants to respond to as well.
Lets just all ignore the c**t
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Do I ?
 
mag in peace said:
They don't need the income from the fans attending games FFS - these matches will reach a global audience who won't give a shit if Newcastle fans are there or not. They will be tuning in to watch the players and the team.

Not attending would literally just punish Newcastle fans, the club would carry on.

Have I ?
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Errr but it WOULD send a message that you don’t support their ownership.😜

Is that so hard to understand?

Let’s get real for a second, owners routinely sack managers based on fan discontentment, if the majority of fans voiced dissenting voices about the potential takeover (you’ve had 18 months to bloody do it) maybe Ashley would have opted for a different owner but hell, having a Cockney owner who doesn’t splash the cash must be a fate worse than death and needed to be outed at all costs…
 
mag in peace said:
Was I trying to change anyone's mind - also don't recall coming on to this thread at all yesterday and it's the first time I've posted on it today. If it helps whatever odd narrative you have, I've been on all the time though arguing the Saudi's are ruddy great folks 🙄
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Most pointless waste of hundreds of hours imagineable.

And that was before you were utterly humiliated that particular evening last week and scurried off saying "I must go to bed now I havent expressed myself very well"

Am amazed you even came back

Thats a bloody odd narrative for you.
 
Peegee said:
Errr but it WOULD send a message that you don’t support their ownership.😜

Is that so hard to understand?

Let’s get real for a second, owners routinely sack managers based on fan discontentment, if the majority of fans voiced dissenting voices about the potential takeover (you’ve had 18 months to bloody do it) maybe Ashley would have opted for a different owner but hell, having a Cockney owner who doesn’t splash the cash must be a fate worse than death and needed to be outed at all costs…
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But all you are suggesting is that the fans don't support the club
they love. There are better ways to vent this anger and disgust as has already been explored.
Yellerish said:
Most pointless waste of hundreds of hours imagineable.

And that was before you were utterly humiliated that particular evening last week and scurried off saying "I must go to bed now I havent expressed myself very well"

Am amazed you even came back

Thats a bloody odd narrative for you.
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Honoured you study my posts and posting history.
 
Bear Heed said:
You're loving it man, you can't get enough of it.

If you believe people should move on then move on.

You're adding to a thread you think people should leave.

You've made your point, that's it, just leave.

Or do you want to just keep repeating yourself as I believe?
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I've never asked anyone to leave the thread I just think Sunderland fans should concentrate on Sunderland not Newcastle
 
mag in peace said:
They don't need the income from the fans attending games FFS - these matches will reach a global audience who won't give a shit if Newcastle fans are there or not. They will be tuning in to watch the players and the team.

Not attending would literally just punish Newcastle fans, the club would carry on.
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I agree with this. However, if that's the case then you as a fan group are in a very good position to express condemnation of some of their practices to this TV audience, not have a whip round.
 
silky mackem said:
Wow that is damning.
While I’ve always maintained the moral compass of Britain doesn’t fall on NUFC or its fans, that cartoon really should hopefully provide some useful reflections on what they’re now inescapably part of. (And pining for)
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This is a project to boost tourism in KSA and their new cities. No doubt more British suppliers given contracts to help build Neom etc. Saudi tourism advertising imminent at SJP. After all, if Ashley van promote Sports Direct with a whacking great advert on the roof of a stand why cant they paint a picture of Saudi itself. The human rights record goes out the window as they dont understand it. If Kim Jong and the North Koreans bought nufc then it might sink in. I wonder why they disnt buy liverpool or arsenal for example. Ah that's right, as recent success means the fans arent desperate enough to turn a blind eye and there is a property boom in Newcastle to take advantage of. SjP to close now and new ground to the banks of the river Tyne and sjp knocked down for flats
 
mag in peace said:
But all you are suggesting is that the fans don't support the club
they love. There are better ways to vent this anger and disgust as has already been explored.

Honoured you study my posts and posting history.
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You stand out like a throbbing purple thumb
 
Botchie said:
I agree with this. However, if that's the case then you as a fan group are in a very good position to express condemnation of some of their practices to this TV audience, not have a whip round.
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It's not a whip around however if it's a united action across fan bases. It makes a proper statement of intent. The money raised would then not be insignificant. It also removes it from just being action taken by Newcastle fans, when clearly there are a lot of people unhappy about their presence.
 
mag in peace said:
Excellent rebuttal, even if this ignores the fact he directly benefitted from the deal financially.

It also doesn't address the fact the same fella in the past said it doesn't matter where money comes from when questions were previously raised. All I was doing was highlighting he's a hypocrite. He's not wrong in his views on the Saudi's, but he's wrong to attack a fellow journalist for no reason when he's actually more guilty of what he's accusing the other of.

Do I ?
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Of course he benefitted financially, he was paid for doing his job.
He wasn't running around with a tea towel on his head or telling people how nice the Saudis are.
 
mag in peace said:
Excellent rebuttal, even if this ignores the fact he directly benefitted from the deal financially.

It also doesn't address the fact the same fella in the past said it doesn't matter where money comes from when questions were previously raised. All I was doing was highlighting he's a hypocrite. He's not wrong in his views on the Saudi's, but he's wrong to attack a fellow journalist for no reason when he's actually more guilty of what he's accusing the other of.

Do I ?
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Downie has been like a love sick puppy since the takeover. Getting excited that "His Excellence" will be at the game on Sunday. The right man to a tyrant. It's like getting excited because Gobbels will be there!!!

If we are attacking Holt for going to Saudi Arabia to do his job and being a hypocrite then his right about the Twitter. Amanda Staveley is equally as wicked and evil. She is quite happy to work for a murderous tyrant and gain from his dictatorship. That's what this all about.
 
jsdftm04 said:
'Generally nice people'
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Again, he was talking about the owners he's met in response to a question about Bruce. Unless you genuinely believe he was referring to the Saudi prince in which case you are stating you think a sky journo would say that about someone committing atrocities which is mental.
 
mag in peace said:
It's not a whip around however if it's a united action across fan bases. It makes a proper statement of intent. The money raised would then not be insignificant. It also removes it from just being action taken by Newcastle fans, when clearly there are a lot of people unhappy about their presence.
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Of course it is, don't be silly.

Crowd funding is just an e-whip round ffs.
 
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